Plum tie up ?

[WUSHINGYM]

Im looking for variations that work in the head grasp of the plum !
Ive used the palm down method grasping the crown of head .
Ive also used the palm up method grasping at your wrist wich i like it gives me better grip with the gloves.
Has anyone used anything different?later wu

[WUSHINGYM]

OOOPS!

Im sorry ,palm down for the crown of head tie up/grabbing wrist is also palm down ?confused? later wu