Men Vs Women

[hEmPY]

woman + tactics = woman winz

LOL

[treelizard]

[QUOTE=J-Luck;273400]

Ahhhh, so your argument is based on showing that there can be exeptions. lol very nice. I'm done debating you now. I've proven my point beyond a reasonable doubt, and you've shown that this is personal for you...

Good luck!

Kind of odd for you to say this is personal for me when I already said in my first post on this thread that the guy would normally win... I just think it's due to men being better able to handle blunt trauma and physical/hormonal factors, not spatial and mechanical reasoning. It'd be fun, though. Maybe they could use that for the next UFC: pick team members based on math tests instead of fighting skill.

I would be interested in seeing your studies on the correlation between spatial and mechanical reasoning and fighting ability... especially if you have any studies by psychologists (you know, those who are qualified to interpret and determine the functions of intelligence).

[J-Luck]

[QUOTE=treelizard;273386]

I totally disagree with that. Little kids can hit pads. People without any mathematical knowledge whatsoever can hit pads. But I'm curious, did you watch the video and look at the pictures of women beating men in Thaiboxing that I posted? Do you really think it was due to their superior spatial and mechanical intelligence?

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5615976419910054798

She's not the only one.

Juliana Borges tied for 1st in the mens ADVANCED division at NAGA one year.

Leilana Akiyama outwrestles boys: http://fhsw.com/Leilani%20Akiyama%20Page.htm

Adreianna Jenkins has fought and beat guys too, in grappling.

Kelly Kobold suplexed a guy, threw him for five, slammed him on his head, let him get to his knees, locked in a standing guillotine, dropped back to guard and choked him out.

Kelyn was a silver medalist in several MEN'S lightweight divisions

Women fighting men: No, not all of them lost:

http://www.womenboxing.com/NEWS2005/news042805womenfightingmen.htm

(Jackie Tonawanda, Christy Foster, Sunshine Fettkether, Joann Haegen)

This chick won the boy's state title in wrestling in Alaska:

http://home.gci.net/~ausaw/1st_in_USA.htm

http://www.adn.com/static/multimedia/hutchison/index.html

This in addition to the Thaiboxing matches I posted.
Sunshine again: http://www.womenkickboxing.com/fettkether_pittman.htm
Elmont vs. Philemon: http://www.killer-queen.nl/video.html#

http://www.womenkickboxing.com/male_femalebouts.htm

Takako Shimoseki
Yvonne Chavez vs Wilfred Parra
Asako Yonezawa-Saioka(vs Kiken "Danger" Takayama

Ahhhh, so your argument is based on showing that there can be exeptions. lol very nice. I'm done debating you now. I've proven my point beyond a reasonable doubt, and you've shown that this is personal for you...

Good luck!

[Little Apple]

seriously... women do much worse in spatial reasoning tasks and mental rotation tasks than men...

Oh I know, I'm one of those women who isn't good at parking, but you didn't have to tease us about it.

As a random side note: studies show (don't remember the name of the researcher/book I found this in, but I can look it up if you like) that in any random physical activity, a human male will do better than a human female with one exception: long distance swimming. Apparently if you take a bunch of chicks, and a bunch of dudes, and make them swim, the chicks can go for longer. This says nothing about taking a single woman and training the crap out of her in something, but there you go.

[treelizard]

[QUOTE=J-Luck;273334]

A great deal, indeed. And of course, as we both know, hitting a pad is merely the start. Two moving people, with some training, the intelligence comes into play even more so.

I totally disagree with that. Little kids can hit pads. People without any mathematical knowledge whatsoever can hit pads. But I'm curious, did you watch the video and look at the pictures of women beating men in Thaiboxing that I posted? Do you really think it was due to their superior spatial and mechanical intelligence?

And with grappling, forget it.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5615976419910054798

She's not the only one.

Juliana Borges tied for 1st in the mens ADVANCED division at NAGA one year.

Leilana Akiyama outwrestles boys: http://fhsw.com/Leilani%20Akiyama%20Page.htm

Adreianna Jenkins has fought and beat guys too, in grappling.

Kelly Kobold suplexed a guy, threw him for five, slammed him on his head, let him get to his knees, locked in a standing guillotine, dropped back to guard and choked him out.

Kelyn was a silver medalist in several MEN'S lightweight divisions

Women fighting men: No, not all of them lost:

http://www.womenboxing.com/NEWS2005/news042805womenfightingmen.htm

(Jackie Tonawanda, Christy Foster, Sunshine Fettkether, Joann Haegen)

This chick won the boy's state title in wrestling in Alaska:

http://home.gci.net/~ausaw/1st_in_USA.htm

http://www.adn.com/static/multimedia/hutchison/index.html

This in addition to the Thaiboxing matches I posted.
Sunshine again: http://www.womenkickboxing.com/fettkether_pittman.htm
Elmont vs. Philemon: http://www.killer-queen.nl/video.html#

http://www.womenkickboxing.com/male_femalebouts.htm

Takako Shimoseki
Yvonne Chavez vs Wilfred Parra
Asako Yonezawa-Saioka(vs Kiken "Danger" Takayama

[GonzoStyles]

Just look at games like Counter Strike, men totaly dominates that game and that should prove that people who play alot of Counter Strike don't go outside very often

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[GonzoStyles]

(from the MMA Mongolian wrestling thread)
why do Mongolian wrestlers wear sleeves but no jackets?

[Tompa1234]

After arguments put forth by Mike, Tim, Excessive, Garland, and myself, I'm not sure why you would even imput with something so trivial.

Hey I just wanted to state my opinion, that men beat woman in almost any kind of sport, physical/skill/reflex demanding.

[treelizard]

seriously... women do much worse in spatial reasoning tasks and mental rotation tasks than men...

but men seem to have worser (lol) verbal acuity, and don't do as well as women in solving formulaic mathematical problems...(but we tend to do better at solving novel math problems...with the exception of myself...if it has numbers, it may as well be greek)

Don't forget that women perform better on memory tests and have much higher fine motor skill ability.

[J-Luck]

Ofcourse the man would win, if you think a woman would win you´re .....not very smart hehe.

Men are faster, stronger and have better reflexes than woman. Just look at games like Counter Strike, men totaly dominates that game and that should prove that men have better reflexes than woman.

I don´t think that I have to explain why men are faster and stronger...

After arguments put forth by Mike, Tim, Excessive, Garland, and myself, I'm not sure why you would even imput with something so trivial.

[Tompa1234]

Ofcourse the man would win, if you think a woman would win you´re .....not very smart hehe.

Men are faster, stronger and have better reflexes than woman. Just look at games like Counter Strike, men totaly dominates that game and that should prove that men have better reflexes than woman.

I don´t think that I have to explain why men are faster and stronger...

[J-Luck]

seriously... women do much worse in spatial reasoning tasks and mental rotation tasks than men...

but men seem to have worser (lol) verbal acuity, and don't do as well as women in solving formulaic mathematical problems...(but we tend to do better at solving novel math problems...with the exception of myself...if it has numbers, it may as well be greek)

Spanks for supporting my arguement with outside sources. I'm usually too lazy to SHOW why I'm right, I figure, why waste my time if I'm right? lol.

And just as there are exeptional women in the area of spacial and mechanical intelligence, there are men who happen to test higher in areas traditionally dominated by women. We are merely speaking in generic terms.

[J-Luck]

[QUOTE=treelizard;273162]

My point is that spatial and mechanical intelligence is more highly developed in men.
/QUOTE]

I was wondering whether you really think that people with high levels of spatial and mechanical intelligence would be better fighters.

Just how much spatial and mechanical intelligence is necessary to, say, kick a bag?

A great deal, indeed. And of course, as we both know, hitting a pad is merely the start. Two moving people, with some training, the intelligence comes into play even more so. And with grappling, forget it.

[treelizard]

What's the common denominator for women who beat men in Thaiboxing?

http://www.womenkickboxing.com/fettkether_pittman.htm

http://www.womenkickboxing.com/male_femalebouts.htm

Elmont vs. Philemon

http://www.killer-queen.nl/video.html#

[GonzoStyles]

On just a bit of a tangent........

when introducing new people to water ski sports (wakeboarding/wakesurfing) in the process of getting pulled up the first time out, we have a 100% success rate with women who have never been pulled behind a ski boat, men it would be about 60%. I don't know if it is a center of gravity issue, or more of a mental issue but thats just the way it goes.