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  • #16
    historical perspective

    While I admit that the direction that the K-1 is going is not what a bunch of thaiboxers would like it to be, but if we look at the history of K-1 from the early '90s, we see quite a large number of trumped up, missed matched, and poorly judged fights, with a fair number of freakish fighters thrown in as well. Remember that Satake fought Kimo way back then. Anyway, after it turned out that Satake was not going to be the Seido Kaikan's image boy (since he wasn't winning), they turned to Andy Hug and made him champion in '96. If you watch the fights, it is questionable whether he won the decision over Ernesto Hoost. He then advanced to the finals and KO'd Bernardo with a cheesy spinning back heel kick to the thigh. After that, Andy, as the upright, best of Japanese Bushido fighter, positive image guy, came to represent K-1 in the Japanese media, even though he never won another championship. After he died, the Seido Kaikan was out a front man, and really they haven't found a new one until Sapp. While the Bob Sapp "revolution" was going on, Ishii Kancho got sapped (pun intended) for tax evasion. So, at the time when K-1 needed an image boost, Bob gave them one. Now Bob goes to Seido Kaikan gasshuku and training camps and the like, and has become the symbol and frontman for K-1 in Japan, and he is trying to beef up his image in the US, but still has a way to go, (maybe Americans have a lower tolerance for BS, or maybe Bob Sapps are a dime a dozen since we watch the NFL, but not so in Japan). At any rate, the long and the short of it is that the Bobified version of the K-1 is not what we want to see--that is, two skilled kickboxers, fighting a toe to toe, or chess-like match using impressive skills, timing and ring-generalship--the historical, long-term perspective may not be as rosey as we might think it actually is. But, that doesn't mean that shitty matches are not shitty matches--they are--and we should continue to talk about them in a critical light.
    Alex

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    • #17
      Tyson would eat his lunch. Guaranteed. That bozo can't take a punch from someone like Tyson. Look at what almost happened to him when getting hit from a weak striker like Kimo! Lol... It was comedy central. I thought it was a complete joke. Something staged or something. I didn't think it could actually be real. In fact, I don't think I laughed so hard in a long time. Even someone like Severn would knock that big freak out in a second. Just think what Tyson would do. Be serious. Tyson is a killer. Plain and simple.

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      • #18
        I agree with Fugetsu.

        Andy's win over Hoost in the 96 GP was a bit fishy. And since Mike was already injured it wasnt going to take much to beat him.

        No disrespect to Andy intended - but in his career in K-1 he has fought MANY bums on the sport. A lot of his wins are over subpar Japanese fighters and mediocre foreigners (like Eric ALbert, Bart Vale, Ricky Nicholson etc). His wins over people like this total 19 (of his 36 wins).

        Every K-1 vet has fought 'sacrificial lambs' in the sport. But not as much as Andy. I guess they were trying to prop up his image and make his a good front man.

        He was a good front man though. He had all the charm charisma and skill to be a good role-model in the sport. A pity he is gone. He WAS one of the best.

        Interesting that in 1995 Mike Bernardo was invited to fight Andy Hug as a 'sacrificial lamb'. Funny how that turned out.

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        • #19
          Personally after just watching the fight, i think Kimo was paid to take a dive, they gave sapp extra time to recover aswell. If Sapp and Tyson were to fight in any style fight, i reckon tyson would win, Kimo proved that Sapp has a glass-jaw. Tyson has the agilty to avoid Sapp's blows, and power and accuracy from his boxing days to connect the one punch needed to shake Sapp, all he has to do then is let the blows rain down on Sapp. Can't wait for this fight

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          • #20
            Originally posted by rhysbeddow
            Personally after just watching the fight, i think Kimo was paid to take a dive, they gave sapp extra time to recover aswell. If Sapp and Tyson were to fight in any style fight, i reckon tyson would win, Kimo proved that Sapp has a glass-jaw. Tyson has the agilty to avoid Sapp's blows, and power and accuracy from his boxing days to connect the one punch needed to shake Sapp, all he has to do then is let the blows rain down on Sapp. Can't wait for this fight

            Wouldn't they have to rain "up" on Sapp? Pretty far up?

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            • #21
              lol true, but one good punch from tyson and sapp wont be up for much longer

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