muay thai vs kungfu

[wael k]

yup chris what u said really helped,so what i understood is that taichi fighting is a very complex and powerfull fighting style but the thing is ,that the perfect masters r really rare ..
anyway really thanks for the info. iu really helped thx.

[MuayThaiFighter]

Originally posted by Thai Bri
And Thai Boxing kicks the crap out of all of them.

I totally agree with that. Infact MuayThai kicks ass on all stand up martial arts.

[ryanhall]

MTF,
Dude, how old are you? You spend all of your time here yelling about how wonderful Muay Thai is and bitching about how crappy so many other things are. You cannot be over the age of 16 or posssess an IQ over 50.

"What is the best style?"

"What is the worst style?"

"What will win: Muay Thai or Kung Fu?"

"What will win: Muay Thai or Tae Kwon Do?"

You come across as somene with a big mouth and way too much time on their hands.

[MuayThaiFighter]

Originally posted by ryanhall
MTF,
Dude, how old are you? You spend all of your time here yelling about how wonderful Muay Thai is and bitching about how crappy so many other things are. You cannot be over the age of 16 or posssess an IQ over 50.

"What is the best style?"

"What is the worst style?"

"What will win: Muay Thai or Kung Fu?"

"What will win: Muay Thai or Tae Kwon Do?"

You come across as somene with a big mouth and way too much time on their hands.

I come here to not only protect my style but to let people know the facts about MuayThai and other styles as well as to share my experiences just as I am sure most people here do. If you take it the wrong way and can't handle it that is your problem. I just give my opinions,I don't expect everyone to agree with me.

I am very straight forward in my beliefs.

I like talking about my martial arts because I am proud to be a MuayThai Fighter.

IQ Test only 50!!!!!!!!!!! now you are funny,actually I have done an IQ test and scored 130 and as far as being only over the age of 16 you are wrong, try more like being 34 yrs.old.

Like I said before everything I write is just based on my experience and opinions, I am not insisting anyone agree with me and I strongly stand by what I believe as I hope others do too, I personally don't care if you agree with anything I write or not.



Muay Thai involves a highly intense and challenging durability of a fighter in the ring. Especially the fact that this sport involves elbows and knees. This method of direct strikes and kicks to the head and to the body is what makes this sport to be outmost challenging yet most gratifying and exiting. If you know the art of Muay Thai you can withstand any kind of pain and beat any opponent. It also makes this sport to be more complete since a fighter uses all of his bodily weapons. As it was said "the fighter's hands are his bullets, his legs are his grenades, and his knees and elbows are his cannons.

[Fire Dragon]

Hai! You're wrong!
Sanda/Shansou is a modification from "LEI TAI = FREE FIGHT (WITHOUT RULE)"! If you looked at Chinese History, you will see that all kungfu master fight (with weapon or hand empty) for DEATH MATCH and/or got new studies/challenges. They fought each other without any protection (body protector, gloves,etc). Shansou/sanda is a new model of fighting which is prepared to protect the fighter! In 70-80, many people or kungfu practioner fought across China Mainland, like as Taiwan, Filipina, Indonesia, Malaysia, Singapore, Canada, US,etc. Most of them beated local martial art! In our country, Muay Thay Fighter never win the fight if he met Sanda/Kungfu or Pencak Silat fighter (tournament or non tournament)! Why? because, rank of skill and his martial art is below then them! So? SHANSOU/SANDA IS NOT MUAY THAY! Do you know that Kungfu Fighter through Shansou/Sanda won several times at "KUNGFU VS MUAY THAY" Event both in China and/or Thailand? You should learn more deeply before you give your recommendation! Thanks.

Originally posted by Great Sage
Puahahaha... REALLY, wael k... If you wanted to promote kung-fu, this is hardly the place to do it. As anyone who remotely understands fighting nows, kung-fu would get mopped by Muay Thai...

Kung-fu hasn't beaten Muay Thai. Sanshou has beaten Muay Thai in Sanshou rules. The Chinese used send kung-fu fighters to Thailand in the 70's and they would get pulvarized... So they developed Sanshou, which is similar to Muay Thai and American kickboxing.

Jet Li... Puahahaha.. The guy has admitted on numerous occassions that he cannot fight. I believe it.

[Great Sage]

Originally posted by Fire Dragon
Hai! You're wrong!
Sanda/Shansou is a modification from "LEI TAI = FREE FIGHT (WITHOUT RULE)"! If you looked at Chinese History, you will see that all kungfu master fight (with weapon or hand empty) for DEATH MATCH and/or got new studies/challenges. They fought each other without any protection (body protector, gloves,etc). Shansou/sanda is a new model of fighting which is prepared to protect the fighter! In 70-80, many people or kungfu practioner fought across China Mainland, like as Taiwan, Filipina, Indonesia, Malaysia, Singapore, Canada, US,etc. Most of them beated local martial art! In our country, Muay Thay Fighter never win the fight if he met Sanda/Kungfu or Pencak Silat fighter (tournament or non tournament)! Why? because, rank of skill and his martial art is below then them! So? SHANSOU/SANDA IS NOT MUAY THAY! Do you know that Kungfu Fighter through Shansou/Sanda won several times at "KUNGFU VS MUAY THAY" Event both in China and/or Thailand? You should learn more deeply before you give your recommendation! Thanks.

Fire Dragon,

Apparently, you belong to the “church of kung-fu mysticism,” of which I’m not a parisher. I’ve heard all these “death match” stories before and they don’t hold much weight. There’s nothing dangerous about a tai chi guy fighting a crane guy to the death... Which usuallly didn’t result in death, by the way.

Worst yet, we’re always told of how this kung-fu founder could leap walls, defeat 40 men and uproot trees... If this were so, why can’t it be done today? Most of the kung-fu guys I’ve met can’t fight, but are very agile and quick (not including the sanshou guys).

I’m well aware that sanshou has beaten Muay Thai... But these events were under sanshou rules: no knees below the belt and no elbows. I read the review in a martial arts magazine... The sanshou guys won by points (takedowns)... These are as simple as tripping the guy. Also, the judges were suspect. The Thai guys would outbox the sanshou guys, but lose because they were tripped or used elbows (deducted points). But as far as Muay Thai is concerned, sanshou guys seldom beat them.

[Zero18]

muay Thai is it, no questions

There is no question that in an actual street fight muay thai would win over kung fu. This is due to the fact that in kung fu fighters are trained to pull their punches for sparring. This inevitably sticks for the real fighting thing. Muay Thai will drive fists through the body of Kung fu masters.

[S.Anucha]

hehe

Hello guys and how are you all? Anyway just been sifting through this post, good topic, its a bit like the PC vs Mac debate.

But anyway, I have trained in Karate and Kung fu but now my total dedication lies with Muay Thai. I have trained and fought in Thailand and train where I live now in Muay Thai and will return again to Thailand very soon to further my education in Muay Thai. so... that out of the way I will add my comments.

If you study martial arts then you should know to respect other martial artists, I say Muay Thai, when learned correctly and applied correctly, is a very powerful martial art.... it may not have much fancy acrobatic moves but it does, when applied correctly, what its created to do and that is crush an opponent in the quickest way possible in a combative situation, Muay Thai is a pure combat martial art.
(Krabi Krabong - weapons side of Muay Thai)

I agree that its not right and its also disrespectful to say that one persons chosen martial art is crap! why do I say that? well I know some guys who trained in Muay Thai and they cant fight for shit, that talk the talk but when it comes to it they are useless, they know Muay Thai but cannot seem to use it, why? well in Thailand my coach (A thai champion) always told me its the heart of a fighter using Muay Thai that wins, Muay Thai is the tool but to use the tool you must be a hearty fighter so.... a Kung fu fighter with a big heart could beat a Muay Thai fighter who didnt have a fighting heart, understand? Its one thing knowing a martial art another thing actually using it in a fight situation.

this is fact... no Kung Fu fighter using Kung Fu has ever defeated a top Ranking Nak Muay (Muay Thai warrior) 5 of Hong Kongs greates Kung Fu fighter travelled to Thailand to pit their strengths against 5 top ranking Thai fighhters, Thai fellas, The kung fu fellas all knocked out withing 6 minutes, all of them in a total of 6 minutes were knocked out. Now its the formidibale reputation Thais have using Muay Thai that make it what it is, if you want to be as good as the Thais then you need to train in Thailand and fight maybe twice a month, no easy feat as injuries caused during fights never have time to heal properlly, so you carry injuries all the time. This is what makes those Thais so tough, the training, the heart of a fighter and Muay Thai way of life is what makes Muay Thai so powerful, THE BEST form of combative fighting around (in my opinion)

Now I am a Muay Thai practitioner but am willing to take from other martial arts that what i see is usefull.


”There is no other boxing like that of the Thais:
Fists, knees, feet and elbows are all used.
And the boxer, no matter how small in size
Can’t be beaten.
All nine of the Burmese Mons was defeated
By Thai boxing.
The name of Nai-Khanom Tom resound with fame.
Although he is dead. His name lives on.
We, who were born in latter days
Still know him
He brought honor to our nation
And we all admire him.”

-Panya Kraitus, eds. Muay Thai-The Most Distinguished Art of Fighting, Thailand: Kraitus, 1988

[HuSanYan]

Originally posted by chris davis 200
the likes of Jet li do not represent tai chi or Kung fu - they represent Wu Shu - a gymnastic sport based on Kung Fu.

chris, with respect you are wrong, for a start the real fact of the matter is that 'Kung Fu' itself is actually a misnomer (but one which we in the west have simply stuck with since around the 1960s - 70's and the term "Wushu" is the correct term for 'warfare/combat' and should be the 'Umbrella' term used for all, each and every single Chinese Martial art to fall under, so to speak.

how do I know this?, well, I speak fluent Mandarin and have spent some time in China & regularly do a wide variety of business with some splendid Triad familys/tongs.

At the end of the day its no big deal at all and many of the Chinese simply cannot be bothered correcting this slight misnomer issue because it doesn't really matter but the above is true.

The gymnastic aspect you mentioned above is only a small part of Wushu as are any of the individual styles of what we happily call Kung Fu (myself included)

I would guess that in the US there are establishments set up calling themselves 'Wushu Schools/centers (kwoons/kwans) that train folks in the gymnastic stuff usually used for exhibitions etc..

so there u have it chris, I dont think you are too dumb at all

Spanky for example along with BriThai are shining cases of dumbness..............

[Thai Bri]

How true. We can't even somersault. But I bet either of us would beat a little shit like you to death with one hand tied behind our full figured backs.

[IPON]

LOL Thai no one says it better

[Thai Bri]

Thanks!

[jubaji]

Originally posted by HuSanYan

well, I speak fluent Mandarin

fluent?

[jubaji]

Originally posted by Thai Bri
How true. We can't even somersault. But I bet either of us would beat a little shit like you to death with one hand tied behind our full figured backs.

"full-figured backs"? do you have breasts on your back? or are you just fat?

[Thai Bri]

I'm fat. Spanky has breasts.