Favotite Master Chai combos or Drills

[Double Dose]

Hey all you TBA people,
Just wondering what some of your favorite drills or combos are that Master Chai has done in the past or currently????
I still love those 5/10/5's anyone else??

[nakmuay26]

Hi Kru Bryan,

I'll have to second those 5/10/5's or 5/10/5/10's. They break even the toughest guys down.

The Shark/Minnow Clinch Drill is great too. One guy in the middle, Three around him, nothing but clinching and kneeing. Not to mention having Ajarn Chai watching for anyone who needs some motivation through push-ups.

I also think that as far as training for a fight, the TBA Instructor style rounds, is an awesome workout. The pad holder is aggressive, the fighter works his foot-jabs, thai kicks, and knees while defending kicks and punches.

Hope everyone keeps adding to this.

Pe@ce,
Hayden B.

[chalambok]

Hello to the Family

hey Bryan, here is one we haven't done for about 15 years...lol I think you will like it because we are roughly the same height, and just love getting to the inside

1) Left switch jab (remember, switch feet as you jab)

2) Immediate left kick to mid-section

3) Right poke knee to thigh

4) Left up (or diagonal) elbow

5) Right elbow

6) Right long knee

7) Right kick to neck

VARIATION

6) Right neck wrap

7) Right knee to body

8) Left down curved knee to kidney to turn the opponent
for the choke or neck breaker after dropping their back
onto your knee as you squat

VARIATION

8) Left down curved knee to kidney to turn the opponent
to throw him to the ground

[Double Dose]

OOOH! I like that! That is exactly what I was looking for you guys some of the old killer drills and combos! I knew you guys would come up w/some great ones. I know Terry knows about 12 zillion of the old killer combos and drill that we used to puke to also! Keep it going!

[chalambok]

A Quickie

To Defend Against A Right Round Kick

1) Right Crossing Leg Block (keep your toes pointed up)

2) Set R foot on ground with heel pointing through the opponent

3) Left upwards/back elbow (to zyphoid process or chin, it doesn't matter)

4) Left grab of opponent's neck (your back will still be facing him/her)

5) Ensure your Right arm is protecting your face/chest

6) Right Flying Curved Knee

7) Clasp both hands behind opponent's neck and

8) Skip Knee to your pleasure

[Double Dose]

That's great one! Here is one of the long ones I think it is a 24 count???
1. Check against rt kick
2. pivot at waist and lean slightly to left and launch left hook
3. rt cross
4. push w/ left hand
6. rt knee
7. rt kick
8. long foot jab against rt kick
9. follow mid left kick immediately
10. left hook
11. rt kick
12. left up elbow against rt cross (slip under w/step and then slide rear foot up when striking)
13. rt down elbow
14. left regular elbow
15. rt knee
16. rt kick
17. parry w/left hand against long foot jab
18. immediate left mid kick
19. rt cross
20. left hook
21. rt knee
22. left reg elbow
23. rt knee
24 rt kick

This is on old one as far as I can tell late 80's to early 90's Just love those long ones. They not only make your body numb but your brain too! This is fun. I hope we can get some more participation. Anyone else???
How about just your favorite drills or combo's as not all of us are TBA'ers. Let's open it up! Care to join in????????
What is your favorite??????
Thanks Chalambok for your great input! Hope all is well for you!
Really missed you guys at camp. Opened new school. Wow what a project. It is doing well though and am excited for the future. Hope all is good up there in the beautiful country!

[chalambok]

Excellent Bryan! But from now on how about we call your step 12 (above) the 'elbow insertion'? Credit the turn of phrase to Rick Sollo.

from a seminar in Eugene OR on 16 September 1989
defense against a Right Cut Kick:
R knee block to attacker's Right thigh
Right hand neck grab
Right skip knee
Left down elbow
Right horizontal elbow
Left push to Right round kick



25 October 1992
Attacking from the Kick Stance:
1) Left jab
2) Left switch kick
(opponent throws Right cross)

3) Right #2 straight knee
4) Right round kick
(opponent throws Right cross)
5) The Primary: used to be the #1 Self-Defense Technique:
slip under cross while pushing it up with your left hand, put your right shoulder into opponent's right armpit and choke with the right arm. Make sure to grab your right wrist with your left hand. Then, Right straight poke knee to just above his right knee. Left curved knee to outside of his right knee. Pivot 90 degrees to your right to twist his lower back and Right curved knee to top of opponent's right knee. All this time you are choking viciously, pulling down into your shoulder.
6) Left hand push to opponent's face (just enough so he pushes back and then) Left snap elbow
7) Right elbow
8) push to #2 straight knee (it does not matter if he punches first or not)
9) Right round kick
(opponent throws long foot jab)
10) Outside block of teep yow
11) Left round kick
12) Right cross
13) Left hook
14) Right round kick
(opponent tries long footjab)
15) counter footjab
16) Left leg cut kick
17) Right cross
18) Left hook
19) Right round kick
(opponent throws Right round kick)
20) Left cut kick
21) Right cross
22) Left hook
23) Right round kick
24) Left hook
25) Right cross
26) WAIT (yes, it is really a step lol)
27) Right round kick
(opponent tries a Left leg cut kick)
28) Turn left leg in for shin block of the cut kick
29) Right cross
30) Left hook
31) Left leg switch kick
32) Right cross
33) Left hook
34) Right round kick


Still looking for my notes from the years we did 49 count drills...needless to mention these are quite an experience for the pad holder also.

Have fun

[fugetsu]

need for 15 counts?

Khun Kru Double Dose, Ajarn Steve and others-
Let me play devil's advocate here a bit and question the need
for high number counts, that is, do we really need to be obsessing
over numbers? Correct me if I am wrong, but my sense of it is
that every Thai trainer has a number of combos that he has his/her
fighters do while he/she is holding the Thai pads. (Here is one that I half
remember a Thai trainer had me do in a Japanese gym:
jab
jab
one, two
double right kick
right cross
switch kick
double right knee
right elbow
left shin cover
double left kick)
Now, the order or number are not important. What is most important is that the trainer is kicking/punching/kneeing/throwing me around while I am kicking the pads. So, the defensive aspect is half or more of the equation, which seems to be left out of the picture if numbers and counts are obsessed over.
I understand that as a teaching expedient, especially at seminars where a trainer like Ajarn Chai, who can not (or does not want to) hold pads for everyone, can still give a number of possible patterns to people with which they can later play. Like the box pattern in Kali, if you always stay in the box, you are missing the picture, it is to get outside of the box (sorry for the over used cliche) and flow which is most important, no? So, like simbrada, the counts have an immediate utility, but the most important part of them, I think, is not the Thai pad kicker who has memorized a 34 count, but the holder who does his/her best to get every dirty cheap shot in as he/she can in order to push the kicker to polish his/her defensive abilities, thus facilitating a flow of techniques not necessarily pre-determined.
Your thoughts?
Fugetsu
ps-here is one to end every round on the pads with, compliments of Yamaki Gym in Tokyo:
(one set for each leg)
double kick
triple kick
five kicks
ten kicks

[Double Dose]

I may be wrong but I believe the idea of the long counts is to force your mind to think and your body to flow into different defenses/offenses naturally. I train short count when training fighters as we get close to the fight but the long counts helps develop reaction etc. I have found over the years of training w/Ajarn Chai that there are times where a defense or offensive combo will just flow from me, and I think man where did that come from? Most of the time I can go beck to my notes and pull up some old drill such as above and man there it is! Although there are many ways to train this is just one of the methods. I personally like the long counts cause after awhile your body just flows w/these reactions and movements.

Here's a really short one I call Pop- Bang

1. left hook
2. right low kick
The idea on this one is to simply pop the hook to land the kick the hook is thrown explosively but w/out too much drive through and the kick is timed so the leg is already on the way before the opponent has time to react. Of course this drill can be expanded by having the preson kick firat and you can work this off of the check or you can follow w/rt cross lt uppercut rt hook lt kick (Pop-Bang)
Thank you for the great combo's anyone else? Lets try for the shortetst combos and the longest combos! Anyone?
Double Dose

[chalambok]

Sounds Like the Advanced Certification Discussion, Alex !

Okay, I asked Master Chai that very question about 20 years ago, and his reply was to the effect that if you practice these long, boring, and very tiring (mentally and physically) drills, you will be able to start and stop anyplace and any technique any time, without always having to go back to the old 1-2. Also, he sometimes does these Thai pad drills to teach the holder, not the kicker. He always stresses the mental development of the fighter/teacher; I seek to do the same.

Anyway, allegedly there are only 108 muay Thai techniques, and Master Chai stated long ago in an interview that he limits his teachings to 30. Go figure...LOL

"Sometimes when I sit by myself all alone
I just sit back and think I haven't sold my soul
So pour me another glass of that sweet burgundy
Maybe it will help to ease my pain
Burgundy I guess you're my only friend
Sweet burgundy" - Tommy Bolin

[eXcessiveForce]

These long Drills resemble Kata training. In fact some of these longer drills are longer than many katas.

Do any of you practice the long drills without hitting pads?