Muay Thai needs to evole

[S.Anucha]

Originally posted by Nitro
S. Anucha,

You already posted that one. What point are you trying to emphasize?

Please explain why the drummer in the band plays with his elbows, knees, and head. I've seen hundreds of fights, but have never seen anyone use his head to play the drum. Sounds like something put on for tourists at the Rose Garden.

I agree with you that tradition is important, but don't follow it blindly. Knowing a few esoteric facts isn't going to win you fights.

They use there knees and elbows because thats what is used during a fight! The head was used but as it is no longer a legal move it is taken from it, and yes the drummers did/do play with the parts of the body the boxer struck with, that is very traditional, it is maybe not as common but never the less it is a tradition. Strange but true. The wai kru ceremony, all is important and when you understand it then you appreciate it more and it helps to make one a better boxer and hopefully one day a better teacher in Muay Thai (as one day I would love that)

And this is not something put on by tourists, I have taken the time to learn Thai language (I dont mean to sound patronising) I can speak Thai, I have and still do keep in touch with some fighters/trainers (ex champions) in Thailand and in UK... I mean I am very serious about learning the traditional side of Muay Thai and I would go as far as to say I know quite a bit about it and for me the traditions of Muay Thai are important to fully underdstand Muay Thai.


in Thailand where I trained in Muay Thai they use the term "Muay Thai" loosely, Muay Thai means Free Boxing, Muay Boran means Ancient Boxing, yeah you guesed it Boran means ancient and Muay means to box and Thai means free, anything goes! In the ring they use the same shit as they did 400 years ago with only some technqiues made illegal. Every camp has a unique style so not every camp fighter fights the same way. Where I trained they taught me Muay Thai to its fullest, in other words I was taught Muay Chao Chur, to all of you maybe its called Muay Boran, which to be quite honest has no real differences than what is used in the ring.... you are drilled to fight in the ring so you are drilled not to use certain things in the ring, thats what training is for. Most Thais dont call anything a martial art, fullstop! They love Thai Boxing (Free boxing) absolutely love it, Thai Boxing is a martial art weather you like or not and it uses a ring as a place to test ones skills!

Nitro, where are you in Thailand? the point I am trying emphasize is that Muay Thai is more than what the majority of its participants realise and the fact that people dont fully recognise it as a martial art tells me that there is some serious promoting of the art to be done.

A lot of Farang disapear to Thailand and spend a few months here and there in training camps entirely made up of farang and a few Thais who make a decent living out of the farang influenced style, this isnt a bad thing but I noticed that the traditional side of Muay Thai was being overlooked as most farang didnt care for that part all they want to do is fight so all they got taught was how to fight. I can garuantee you ask about Thai history, Muay Thai traditions and show you genuinely want to deeply understand Muay Thai to its fullest then your world will turn in Thailand!!! I have made a very good friend, a Thai boxing trainer who after seeing and experiencing my lust for knowledge of Muay Thai has offered me to stay with him and train with him for free. I hope I dont sound like an arrogant twit, I am really trying hard not to and just sorta explain my personallity and what drives me to learn Muay Thai and my understanding of the "art", because thats what Muay Thai is, its an art form of fighting that has rarely seen changes. I love th ereasons why they have chosen to fight like this and the history of the art form and why its name has changed throughout the decades.



by the way Nitro you mentioned "Kaht Cheuak" I have seen these fights.