all out sparring?

[salamat po]

Hey Tim how is sparring conducted at your school?

Also what is the breakdown of your JKD class?

Thanks

[Zero18]

No offense taken S. Anucha

I did not mean to come across as the "tough guy" attitude. You make an outstanding point. I only started sparring full contact with force when my trainer died and I was training with a sparring partner who has the same ideals as I do. My apologies for the baby bottle pillow fight thing. I did not mean you need to be weened on a bottle. I just got caught typing when my mind was on the very serious matters. Please except my fondest apologies. I do still have alot to learn. Thank you for your correcting my offenses.

[Thai Bri]

What do you think you are doing? You WERE doing so well, and fitting in nicely. But you had to spoil it by being nice.

Seriously, I was also under the impression that the Thai's would be knocking seven belles out of each other when they sparred. Thats why I couldn't understand how they trained 6 hours a day.

The fog is lifting......

[Szczepankiewicz]

The fog is lifting......

Never happen....

[Tom Yum]

Originally posted by grubbogoppoly
Funny hearing a muay thai guy(?) say he spars light contact. I thougth that was what most of the muay thai guys made fun of "traditional martial arts" for. Just thought it was kind of funny.

Pro-thaiboxers spar about 60-80% of max contact and intensity. They depend on fighting to feed themselves, so they have to be preapaired but not injured.

Recreational fighters who don't compete take the time to learn timing, technique and accuracy so they don't spar harder then 40%. Amateur fighters don't go over 70% either.

Then there are the guys that just want to brawl 100%, no matter what recreational or amateur. You cant train with them regularly because you get hurt and have to take the next day or two off. If you go 100% all the time, you build injuries that never heal and you can burn out.

[grubbogoppoly]

That is the way that I see my training. I go as far as I can without injuring myself(too badly).

[Tom Yum]

I take it you injure yourself alot in the bathroom.

[grubbogoppoly]

LOL. .I have pulled my groin numerous times. .
MOst of the time it feels good though

[Tom Yum]

Ah yes, kata at its finest!

[grubbogoppoly]

I was still talking about the bathroom

[Tom Yum]

.....over your head.

[grubbogoppoly]

Lol. .I got it

[Tom Yum]

apparently you're not getting it enough...

[SOUTHPAW]

SPARRING ALL OUT

WTF???? You would have to be a fool to spar at 100% without any extra protection (headgear, shinpads etc.) Sparring ain't a fight. You are usually training with the guys that you see all the time and are friends with. Taking it down a few notches helps you learn and develop fighting rhythm...which helps in the ring. There is no excuse for going balls out in a sparring session, and anyone that fights in the ring knows that.
If you want to go at it, get in the ring for real, you'll have ample opportunity to get your lights knocked out.

[S.Anucha]

SOUTHPAW

exactly!!! sparring is training and no matter what way you look at it thats all it is. What do you achieve from trying to compete in a sparring match? nothing! I like sparring with experienced fighters as they do not go hard and and I learn loads from them. Bare in mind you cannot really go hard in Muay Thai sparring, I mean if you want to why not just train then fight?

Professional, damn I will return to Thailand in December and will be returning to fight! which means professionally.... yeah I know thats a big leap for someone with only 3 fights under his belt but hey whats the worst that can happen? I get beat? well at least I learn a shit load from them, my last experiences told me that its worth it, I am 67kg 178cm tall!!! pretty good build for thia boxing and I seem to have a knack at it too! But sparring, yeah, there is always one or two guys who take sparring as a competitive "light fight" and they learn nothing from it other than if they go hard then I am going to go harder until the coach/instructer shouts to drop it down a little. SOUTHPAW has it said perfectly, we are team mates and team mates do not fight with each other and if you want to go hard with the guys you are tarining with then I say leave the gym join another one then come back to fight in the ring with one of the guys you used to spar with.....

Its rude to go hard on someone when they are clearly going soft on you, I try to avoid such uncontrolled sparring partners cos I am there to learn how to fight not to vent pent up aggression on team mates. Thats why I love to spar with experienced fighters and title holders, they know exactly how to keep the pressure on without losing control... thats how you learn. If you can control yourself during a fight then you have an advantage.

just my thoughts.


Real World Self Defense
Its not what you know
... it's what you can do

By Chad Boykin


"The last method of training is sparring. This is where all the work is put to the test. Sparring is where you actually test your abilities against a (preferably more experienced) training partner. You only want to hit about 50% as hard as you can during sparring, but this does not mean go half speed (unless you are a beginner drilling certain techniques). Sparring is what makes training in Thai boxing so practical. You spar for the entire round and there is no stopping of the session as soon as contact is made (as is done in some striking arts).

In a real confrontation or self-defense situation you may land a good clean strike on the attacker, only to find he has not fallen to the ground! This is the problem with practicing complex techniques that are designed for the specific purpose of martial arts demonstration instead of combat. Many martial arts techniques require willing accomplices who know exactly how to make it look good. This is not the case with Thai or western boxing."