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    I dont know if this is a stupid question. But in a real combat, will martial arts help you? For an example Thaiboxing. Is it worth anything outside the competitions?

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    Real combat.. as in war... no... cause you'll prolly get shot/bombed before you can clinch the guy.

    In a fight.. of course... anything u do really.

    If you take thai boxing... and you just learn how to kick and punch effectively, yoru already there, if you take Tae Kwon Doe... you learn how to kick better... even if this may seem like a "bad" martial art for real life situations... being a streetfighter who can kick like crazy.. or being a streetfighter... its not like your losing anything, just gaining stronger legs. (This is of course if you keep your hands up).

    Even if you dont learn to slip punches, counter punch, etc... learning the proper mechanics of a punch cant hurt you. \

    If all else fails youll be alot more conditioned and be able to last longer in a streetfight, which is often what it comes down to I would imagine... people getting too tired.

    The only thing i would say is bad for you... would be arts where they teach you that if you simply yell at people that will stop and drop the attacker... or certain... "death touches" or something like that....

    You ever see the video of that guy who can "send people into shock with just the power of his voice"...

    and then for w/e reason it didnt work on Jiu Jitsu students... thats the only thing that can hurt you I think.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Etmil
      I dont know if this is a stupid question. But in a real combat, will martial arts help you? For an example Thaiboxing. Is it worth anything outside the competitions?
      the fact is, is any training is better than nothing, but you gotta be smart and realize the limitations of your ma as well. knowing ma is a skill. it can aid you greatly, but it in no way makes you invincible. you have to understand where and when you can apply your skills, not every moment will be appropriate. trainining in ma also builds self confidence, inner strength, and cultivates a sense of awareness and responsibility in people(true martial artists). these character traits alone can make huge differences in the way one handles certain situations.


      by real combat i assume you mean a "self defense" type situation were someone is trying to force you into something you dont want to do and might try to seriously injure you, and not getting in fist fights with wiggers over stupid shit in the jack in the box parking lot at 2 am on friday night. i know one guy who told me he soley trains so he can fight better at parties so he can look good in front of people, and ive met another who told me the only reason he trains is so he can beat people up when he is on the dance floor at the club. "real combat" and "self defense" has varying meanings depending on who you ask.

      as for muay thai, despite being a ring sport now, its still extremely effective outside the ring and is taught to soldiers all over the world. look at this site for more info.
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      • #4
        in the "real" world

        Martial arts traing WILL help you to defend yourself better

        it will give you exposure to conflict situations in a controlled enviroment.
        it will let you know what it's like to hit and be hit.
        it will teach you timing, distance, balance and direction.

        you may not be able to pull off a jet li stunt at a party
        you may not be able to use a specific technique in a street brawl

        but everything you learn will help you, it's very rare to be killed by something you know about....

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        • #5
          Yea like they said. After all martial arts doesnt do anything against you , not to my knowledge anywa. And if it doesnt do negatives things to you, it makes positive things to you right? Meaning, you get stronger, have better endurance , stamina, and power.

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          • #6
            The other side to what's already been said is this:




            You have to be smart about what you're learning. There are certainly some schools which teach in a much more street-realistic way than others. If your goal is pure self-defense you might choose a different school than if your goal is learning about Japanese warrior culture with some self-defense on the side.


            That seems pretty common sense, unfortunatly there are people who get caught up in a certain mythology regarding martial arts. Students who worship their instructors, instructors who worship themselves... These are the people that contribute to the martial arts reputation as a sham.

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            • #7
              If you train in a style/art/whatever that has some type of contact sparring, I think you're basically learning some important things:

              1. To experience and learn to deal w/ the adrenaline dump (fight or flight).
              2. Fighting tactics like timing, speed, and power.
              3. Mental and physical toughness.

              Hopefully, if you do it enough, you also learn that avoiding self-defense situations is a good thing. IMHO, everyone is vulnerable to injury in real life
              no matter how much/hard they train.

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              • #8
                Ive used martial arts in street situations but usually I have to change/adapt it a little and make it more "streety". If I get taken down, I never pull full guard, I keep it open and keep my knees in to keep him back and then kick him off. Kwai is dead on.

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