Is judo practical for a one v one street fight?

[jigmastermatt]

So...would it? If not, would Muay Thai be better?

[Tant01]

try reading through the old posts, do a search... this has been answered before...

[jigmastermatt]

Alright, thanks.

I searcher, and I found my answer, I apologize for being ignorant.

[EmptyneSs]

So...would it? If not, would Muay Thai be better?

judo is good, but its learning curve is higher than mt inmop. you can begin using mt almost immediately too if needed, as even after the first few lessons your basic punching skills will be improved greatly. i do both judo and mt, and id prob use mostly mt for standup if i was in a fight. thats just me though, im sure others may prefer judo over mt.

mt is str8 up about getting into fighting shape and learning how to beat the crap out of others and protect yourself while standing up.

[darrianation]

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[nutter]

I agree with darrianation, Aikido is better innit. More rounded.

[darrianation]

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[Adept]

So...would it? If not, would Muay Thai be better?

Yes, it is good in a one on one fight. Slam opponent's head on concrete, then cross-mount or knee on belly if he's still conscious. Muay Thai isn't or wouldn't be better, just different. If you really want to give your opponent a fat lip and some black eyes, go for it. But what if it's your friend who's drunk? With judo, you can either pin him until he calms down, or choke him out without hurting him. Or if you hate your friend, you also have the CHOICE of breaking his arms or legs.

I suppose Judo has some merit in the one on one fight. But like many sport martial arts (or most MAs for that matter) it is a one dimensional specialist discipline. I would rather be a multi dimensional generalist.

By one dimensional, you mean it has throws and submissions but no striking? Then again that's just about every martial arts style. Muay Thai's a great striking game, but no groundfighting game. Greco-Roman's a great wrestling game, but no submissions or strikes. Only art I can think of that's truly multi-dimensional in its own right is Pankration.

[EmptyneSs]

Yes, it is good in a one on one fight. Slam opponent's head on concrete, then cross-mount or knee on belly if he's still conscious. Muay Thai isn't or wouldn't be better, just different. If you really want to give your opponent a fat lip and some black eyes, go for it. But what if it's your friend who's drunk? With judo, you can either pin him until he calms down, or choke him out without hurting him. Or if you hate your friend, you also have the CHOICE of breaking his arms or legs.



By one dimensional, you mean it has throws and submissions but no striking? Then again that's just about every martial arts style. Muay Thai's a great striking game, but no groundfighting game. Greco-Roman's a great wrestling game, but no submissions or strikes. Only art I can think of that's truly multi-dimensional in its own right is Pankration.

i agree that judo and jiu jitsu can give you the option of stopping people without hurting them. a choice that mt doesnt really offer.

[Tant01]

i agree that judo and jiu jitsu can give you the option of stopping people without hurting them. a choice that mt doesnt really offer.

Judo is for playing with friends, Jujutsu is for killing your enemies...

[doJu]

Judo is for playing with friends, Jujutsu is for killing your enemies...

Yeah but Judo is more realistic to pull off in a fight. In JJJ, there is no resisting partners and alot of JJJ's standing joint locks are nearly impossible to do on a worthy opponent. JJJ has deadly strikes, but so does Muay Thai and Boxing...but at least you know those strikes will work for sure because youve executed them(in training) on opponents who have been fighting back.

If you want to kill or seriously injure your opponents especially for self defense, buy a gun. With that, you wont need any martial arts training at all. Youll just need to know how to shoot properly with practicing once or twice on a target(not human or anything living).

[Tom Yum]

If you want to kill or seriously injure your opponents especially for self defense, buy a gun. With that, you wont need any martial arts training at all. Youll just need to know how to shoot properly with practicing once or twice on a target(not human or anything living).

Firearms are effective at distances of 30 feet or greater. In lesser distances, a knife is more effective.

This comes from FBI statistics.

[Tant01]

sorry but....

Yeah but Judo is more realistic to pull off in a fight. In JJJ, there is no resisting partners and alot of JJJ's standing joint locks are nearly impossible to do on a worthy opponent. JJJ has deadly strikes, but so does Muay Thai and Boxing...but at least you know those strikes will work for sure because youve executed them(in training) on opponents who have been fighting back.

If you want to kill or seriously injure your opponents especially for self defense, buy a gun. With that, you wont need any martial arts training at all. Youll just need to know how to shoot properly with practicing once or twice on a target(not human or anything living).

Uhhh, sure... Judo is the gentle way to learn Jujutsu techniques...

With a gun you will need special martial training. It's a weapon. To own a handgun and only practice once or twice is like learning one throw and saying you know judo...

Shooting is a skill that requires maintenance. I can hit small moving targets without using the sights (point shooting or "instinct" shooting) but it takes many THOUSANDS of rounds to become that proficient...Muscle memory and grip, stance and angles, leading and trigger control... you won't get that shooting paper targets over a weekend...

[Tant01]

Firearms are effective at distances of 30 feet or greater. In lesser distances, a knife is more effective.

This comes from FBI statistics.

Chose your weapon carefully. Most police shootings are closer than twenty feet, almost half of those are less than five feet...If they get closer than that you can always hit them over the head with it.

[doJu]

Uhhh, sure... Judo is the gentle way to learn Jujutsu techniques...

With a gun you will need special martial training. It's a weapon. To own a handgun and only practice once or twice is like learning one throw and saying you know judo...

Shooting is a skill that requires maintenance. I can hit small moving targets without using the sights (point shooting or "instinct" shooting) but it takes many THOUSANDS of rounds to become that proficient...Muscle memory and grip, stance and angles, leading and trigger control... you won't get that shooting paper targets over a weekend...

Fair enough...its just that the average person can use a gun effectively against an attacker or two with no gun training at all.