Street Styles

[darrianation]

Simple is always good but you have to be careful not to simplify to the point of sacrificing robustness. That said a good system meets the needs of today’s potential threats and can account for a set of parameters from developing awareness and stress inoculation to defaults, decision making (choosing the best options), and efficient threat management against both armed and unarmed threats, single and multiple threats, and from the bad breath to stand off range.

[TKD Student]

oh shit...what did I eat?

Broccoli?

Edit: Sorry for spam!
I think I made a mistake... *cough!*

[TKD Student]

oh shit...what did I eat?

Broccoli? :P

[TKD Student]

See, thats what Im saying, these TKD tactics you speak of is not unparagoned to TKD.

And if one hasnt had many fights, one lack more expereince with many types of opponents.....to which such tactics yo had stated will not work in every situation.

I know it wouldn't work in every situation!
But if you read what I said, you should know that I told you that everything depends on the situation I'm in.

[47MartialMan]

Well, I don't really fight much...
But one thing that works good for me is a low kick (knee or something), then pitchagi or a punch in the belly/chest, punch to the face (nose) and then a kick in the side of the head. That works good for me.
Sometimes I use my knee if I can...

Or, I can smash the opponent over the ears (both with open hands) when I get a shot, and then kick in the side and a kick in the head, tornado or bandae-dollyo-chagi if I want to finish him hard.

But I prefer to stay out of fights as long as I can.

See, thats what Im saying, these TKD tactics you speak of is not unparagoned to TKD.

And if one hasnt had many fights, one lack more expereince with many types of opponents.....to which such tactics yo had stated will not work in every situation.

[TKD Student]

TKD Student>

How often do you get into fights?

If you regularly use "TKD kicks/punches" then you must have some favourite technique that works good for you.

Can you give us some examples or are you making it up??

Well, I don't really fight much...
But one thing that works good for me is a low kick (knee or something), then pitchagi or a punch in the belly/chest, punch to the face (nose) and then a kick in the side of the head. That works good for me.
Sometimes I use my knee if I can...

Or, I can smash the opponent over the ears (both with open hands) when I get a shot, and then kick in the side and a kick in the head, tornado or bandae-dollyo-chagi if I want to finish him hard.

But I prefer to stay out of fights as long as I can.

[WildWest.]

TKD Student>

How often do you get into fights?

If you regularly use "TKD kicks/punches" then you must have some favourite technique that works good for you.

Can you give us some examples or are you making it up??

[TKD Student]

And what does a TKD kick and punch be specifically?

What sets it distinguishable from others?

You mean what kicks/punches I would use?
If that's what you mean, I would say it depends on the situation...

[47MartialMan]

I don't really fight much... but if I have to I use Taekwondo kicks and punches, and some tricks of my own ^^

And what does a TKD kick and punch be specifically?

What sets it distinguishable from others?

[TKD Student]

I don't really fight much... but if I have to I use Taekwondo kicks and punches, and some tricks of my own ^^

[Albert]

"Thanks to those who explained why they carry weapons. I'm not convinced doing it is what I would call healthy but I don't live where you do so reserve judgement.

Yes, in a "street fight" I, and most other MAists would use a weapon if the situation demanded it. I just wondered if it was necessary to carry them when you lived somewhere relatively safe."


It really haz nothing to do with if you live in a relatively safe place or not, everyone should carry a knife, if you dont have one, simply because you feel safe and dont think you will need it, your just being ignorant, because should the time come you do need it, it will not be there. Carrying a knife doesnt have to have anything to do with believing your going to be killed by someone on the street if you dont have it with you, a knife iz a tool, i always have one on my belt, and i usually need to use it at least a few timez a day, to either cut something, or open something, or wutever, i mean thers a million and one daily uses for a knife that have nothing to do with any type of combat, but having it in case of an attack where its use is warranted iz just a bonus. And noone really lives in a completely safe place, for example, the town i live in iz not a dangerous place az far az crime goes, but just 10-15 minutes down the highway iz hartford, one of the most dangerous cities in this country, and people come in from there and other bad towns all the time. Think of a knife az a condom, lol, even if your probably not going to need it, itz better to have it just in case.

[lorenzodamarith]

hello,

ladies ladies ladies... (you know which ones you are)...

suggest checking out the thread intitled "a question of mindset". this seems to be an appropriate tangent for you all.

as far as the original question at hand.... which styles are effective?

well most of them really. many styles were developed with specific purposes in mind. when used properly, most are pretty good. but that really becomes an issue in an of itself... how many actually know how to use them for thier intended purpose.

note: this is aimed at the majors systems (not every self created hodge podge out there). judo, karate, muaythai, jiujitsu, cambo, wrestling, some kungfu's, fma's, silat.

it appears that the simpler a system is the better suited to streetfighting it becomes. that is likely do to the fact that most who will get into streetfights are not finished learning the basics of thier chosen systems.

granted, this is something of an oversymplification for the sake of expediency, but the idea remains the same. basic techniques done properly are your best bet.

by the numbers, it is likely that judo, wrestling and boxing have been used most often in "street situations". just a guess, based on the length of time they have been established worldwide and the number of students.

and ladies? yes. the use of the word ladies is in fact for dramatic effect!!

did it work? hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!

check out that thread, it MIGHT help "crystallize" some of the thoughts you have on the subject. it might not. holler back when you get some time.

thanks.

[Anti]

There is no such thing as fast results. The practitioner could only gain knowledge and skill in accordance to what is taught and what is developed.

How can Shaolin be a good style not having good masters?

Shaolin was not designed for war purposes

Im glad someone said it. Shaolin was definately not designed for war. It was designed as an outlook on life -in the forms of a martial art.
But, it is a good style, regardless of the master. The master is the guide, the bottle of experience to be poured upon you, and without a good master it IS dificult. But becoming effective in an MA comes from the practitioner more-so than the master. I personally study and train myself, and have gotten little school experience. From what I study and practice (MT, TKD, and several Chinese MAs), I take what i deem efficiant and good for me, and form my self in accordance to my experiences. Id recommend schooling over self-practice, but its not the only way.
-Anti

[47MartialMan]

I have to completely agree

[simplestudent]

I used to...until I pulled one and, even though the situation was still more chest puffing and bullshit, realized that something really bad could've happened and I could've gone to prison for a long time just for being drunk and trying to save face jumping up the force ladder when it might not have been completely warranted.

Also...seeing a buddy of mine almost disembowled out of the blue gave me the impression that having a knife on you is secondary to having one in your hand and knowing exactly what's going on around you...which is impossible to do all the time, and would certainly be considered maladaptive and anti-social. (think about walking around with a knife in your hand everywhere you go, looking everyone up and down, and never getting your back turned to open areas...yeah... can someone say paranoid delusions???)

Anyway...yeah, in short...weapons are only good if you can use them...if somebody gets the jump on you...you're basicly unarmed...maybe worse if you're all tied up trying to get to your weapon.

If you've fucked up big...and somebody is smart, looking for you, and has your routine and shit down...and has the intent to knife you...buh-bye. Sorry...you be pretty fucked. Any outcome not involving at the very least greivous bodily harm can be attributed more to luck, or the other person making a huge mistake (i.e. drawing the knife outside of 30 feet within plain sight of you, or yelling their intentions as they are getting out of a car or something) than anything else.


what cult buddy?

Man. Thank You for saying that. The truth is, if you don't know what you're doing with ANY weapon, you can truly get meassed up or put in jail if you get in a street fight. And if you do pull it, you better make sure you have probable cause, and the jury believes you, because if they don't you'll be wedding big bubba in a cold hard prison cell.

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