What they say, what they do

[gregimotis]

In my experience the guys who claim most loudly that they would step in are the guys who find the urgent need to go to the toilet when trouble starts.

That's been my experience also - Or at least that how loudly someone talks bears no relation at all to what he'll actually do.
It's one of the reasons I've liked sport MA's - eventually everyone has to stand up and take the hits.

[treelizard]

Somebody's reading their B.F. Skinna.
Bad "mutha" Fucka Skinner.

I thought it was Martin Seligman.

[J-Luck]

learned helplessness.

[lorenzodamarith]

In my experience the guys who claim most loudly that they would step in are the guys who find the urgent need to go to the toilet when trouble starts.

Where is Troll Virus by the way?

hello,

hahahahahahahahahaha!!! that is funny.... on both levels...

thanks.

[Tant01]

In my experience the guys who claim most loudly that they would step in are the guys who find the urgent need to go to the toilet when trouble starts.
Where is Troll Virus by the way?

Dude you just reminded me of an event that I was there to see.

My old buddy "Boots" back in basic. He was the good guy, modest and reserved mostly until he was drinking the spirits. He held a 2 dan in some style of karatedo and could kick high and hard. He was talking the game and trying to convince us how "bad" he could be.

And then pissed his pants when some idiot discharged a gun by accident...

It was funny. I suppose you had to be there but the timing was perfect.

[Thai Bri]

In my experience the guys who claim most loudly that they would step in are the guys who find the urgent need to go to the toilet when trouble starts.

Where is Troll Virus by the way?

[DickHardman]

my 8th grade teacher said she once saw a woman screaming and running down the street trying to get away from a man running after. so she stops her car and picks up the woman and floors it. unfortunately for her, she had just picked up a prostitute running away from an undercover cop arresting her luckily the cops were understanding when they pulled her over a while later and didnt book her for helping a fugitive. but these things happen i guess.

[lorenzodamarith]

hello,

garland brings up a good point.

if you know the assailant to be a cop, what would you do. cops can know the assailant is guilty as sin,

but if you attack a cop.......

"we commend this body to the ground".... because he fell....

thanks.

[treelizard]

Just got around to watching this. I guess that's why you get training--so that you'll be able to deal with situations like that when they come up.

Also, don't work at bars without security.

[DickHardman]

That brings up an interesting question...what are the repercussions of restraining and possibly hurting an off duty cop? How about if you have to get to the point where you apply lethal self defense solutions such as shooting him in the face?


What about a uniformed, on-duty cop raping a chick? It happens. It happened to a friend of mine. I'd LIKE to think if I was there, I'd give that 21 foot rule a good college try. I know I've made the choice to pummel or draw weapons on people in the past, and in each of the three cases I've drawn a weapon on somebody, it was over them threatening or attempting some level of sexual or physical assault on a girl.

But I'm fucked up and crazy. A moderate amount of suicidal ideation, and a bizarro ethics code...sure, I'd kill somebody (in the case of rape or murder) and spend the rest of my life in jail, or be killed in the process of trying to defend the life of some woman I don't know...

but that's because I've already justified it in my head. I don't know how I'd live with myself if I didn't respond in that way. Talk about incongruence...my actions wouldn't match up to my concept of self, my ethics, and I'd be haunted daily by guilt...I'm guessing that if I didn't respond to a situation like that...I'd probably end up in a lockdown psych unit with all of my clothes taken away and wrapped up in a buritto suit.

How worthless would I be if I didn't do something? Dante said that the worst parts of Hell are reserved for inherently good men who stand by as bad things happen...and I'm sure I'd create that for myself. That's a benefit of being raised with old fashioned Catholic guilt---it keeps your shit honest.

just chill dude; you will be ok.

[Garland]

I first saw this video on CNN last week. It shows an off-duty cop beating the crap out of a female bartender.

That brings up an interesting question...what are the repercussions of restraining and possibly hurting an off duty cop? How about if you have to get to the point where you apply lethal self defense solutions such as shooting him in the face?


What about a uniformed, on-duty cop raping a chick? It happens. It happened to a friend of mine. I'd LIKE to think if I was there, I'd give that 21 foot rule a good college try. I know I've made the choice to pummel or draw weapons on people in the past, and in each of the three cases I've drawn a weapon on somebody, it was over them threatening or attempting some level of sexual or physical assault on a girl.

But I'm fucked up and crazy. A moderate amount of suicidal ideation, and a bizarro ethics code...sure, I'd kill somebody (in the case of rape or murder) and spend the rest of my life in jail, or be killed in the process of trying to defend the life of some woman I don't know...

but that's because I've already justified it in my head. I don't know how I'd live with myself if I didn't respond in that way. Talk about incongruence...my actions wouldn't match up to my concept of self, my ethics, and I'd be haunted daily by guilt...I'm guessing that if I didn't respond to a situation like that...I'd probably end up in a lockdown psych unit with all of my clothes taken away and wrapped up in a buritto suit.

How worthless would I be if I didn't do something? Dante said that the worst parts of Hell are reserved for inherently good men who stand by as bad things happen...and I'm sure I'd create that for myself. That's a benefit of being raised with old fashioned Catholic guilt---it keeps your shit honest.

[dogzilla]

If i say, i realy dont know what would i have done, probably would just standing there from shock.... :O btw i dont anyone would know he is an off duty cop, right? he didnt had a badge or something on... So yes, maybe some would go on him and later find out he is a cop or something...

[WildWest.]

The extreme, like you mentioned should always be the exception. In the scenario you witnessed, it sounds like calling the cops would have been the best option. But I wasn't there so reserve judgment.

[kingoftheforest]

Yeah it got FUBAR real fast. I tend to stay away from domestic squabbles, unless some one is obviously going to die, then I'd feel obligated to take action.

[bigboywasim]

Ok so he is a drunk cop with a gun I will just call the police but if he has no gun I will kick his ass. I can not see women and children get beat.