Training to Fight a Marine

[DickHardman]

Maybe better at Marketing but not at Kicking arse. Look at how good they Market Krav Magra. Marketing Genuis. Dude, You obvioulsy don't know any Marines. Tell you what, go down to the Marine recuriters office and ask him to show you the application to be a Marine. Check out the Language. Then ask about the reputation of Parris Island.

just because you live in america, it doesnt automatically make everything from america better than everyone else. there are other countries in the world besides america, many with much more combat experience than us.

as for marketing? israeli commandos have to fight terrorists and raid their hideouts every single day in their home soil. they are obviously going to have more experience than many of their counterparts in other parts of the world.

what about french legionares? how tough are those guys?

[Hardball]

just because you live in america, it doesnt automatically make everything from america better than everyone else. there are other countries in the world besides america, many with much more combat experience than us.

Semper Fi, Do or Die. I gotta go Bro, go see a Marine Recruiter. 5 of my best buddies in life were Marines. I Joined the Army because I didn't wanna face Parris Island. Peace Out Bro!! Remember this, the Army is for Hustlers and the Marines is for Killers. LOL

[E.C. Valdimar]

You know I've learned A LOT since I started posting here. Honestly posting and talking about things has help to lesson my worries of what might happen. I've trained harder and had a bit a fire lit under me to learn all I could about armied forces. Even learning about myself {Thanx Loren Chrstiensen}. Amazing People have sent me private messages actually telling me their stories. Stories of about the times they had to fight a Marine as well. And surprise, surprise. They are just Human. W/ hopes, dreams and weakness like me, too. One man said that he really thinks their main problem is in their famous saying "The few, the PROUD, the brave". And to be honest in my search of the net for videos I've got to say that I AM more impressed w/ the SAS and the Isreal Military then the young guys I see in the U.S. Marines.

If it sound like I'm talking bad about the Marines I'm sorry. But I think that for me I just need to get rid of the idea I had that they {or should I say he} is some kind of unbeatable guy that I need to fear. All Marines are not mean A**holes. But I do think this guy is.

[Hardball]

You know I've learned A LOT since I started posting here. Honestly posting and talking about things has help to lesson my worries of what might happen. I've trained harder and had a bit a fire lit under me to learn all I could about armied forces. Even learning about myself {Thanx Loren Chrstiensen}. Amazing People have sent me private messages actually telling me their stories. Stories of about the times they had to fight a Marine as well. And surprise, surprise. They are just Human. W/ hopes, dreams and weakness like me, too. One man said that he really thinks their main problem is in their famous saying "The few, the PROUD, the brave". And to be honest in my search of the net for videos I've got to say that I AM more impressed w/ the SAS and the Isreal Military then the young guys I see in the U.S. Marines.

If it sound like I'm talking bad about the Marines I'm sorry. But I think that for me I just need to get rid of the idea I had that they {or should I say he} is some kind of unbeatable guy that I need to fear. All Marines are not mean A**holes. But I do think this guy is.

The point I was trying to make is that Marines are professionally trained killers. You are talking about fighting when that Marine may have his mind on Icing you.

[E.C. Valdimar]

One thing though,

And i'm not trying to give you a hard time.

But do you suppose he is on the net asking how to fight you?

He's already won the first battle, he created doubt.

LOL Like Rocky Balboa said "I think you try a little harder when you're affraid"

[DickHardman]

One thing though,

And i'm not trying to give you a hard time.

But do you suppose he is on the net asking how to fight you?

He's already won the first battle, he created doubt.

the marine could also be overconfident because of his perceived superiority in training.

[Hardball]

Well, if you go looking for trouble you will surely find it. I said, a couple of pages back, try to befreind him and reason with him. You seem determined to have an altercation. Let us know how it goes.

[DickHardman]

Well, if you go looking for trouble you will surely find it. I said, a couple of pages back, try to befreind him and reason with him. You seem determined to have an altercation. Let us know how it goes.

would you want to be friends with a guy who almost punched your gf?

[Tom Yum]

Tell you what, go down to the Marine recuriters office and ask him to show you the application to be a Marine. Check out the Language. Then ask about the reputation of Parris Island.

or Quantico, Va...

[Tom Yum]

would you want to be friends with a guy who almost punched your gf?

Hitting a woman for anything less than self-defense or agreed contact type competition is flat out wrong in my opinion.

[Hardball]

would you want to be friends with a guy who almost punched your gf?

Keyword "ALMOST" From what I can see, this Dude is just "Looking for Trouble" and He will find it. Again, keyword almost. Don't be a Hot Head. I've seen a lot of them (hot heads) buried. Reasonablenss and Prudence is in order.

[Tom Yum]

Keyword "ALMOST" From what I can see, this Dude is just "Looking for Trouble" and He will find it. Again, keyword almost. Don't be a Hot Head. I've seen a lot of them (hot heads) buried. Reasonablenss and Prudence is in order.

Good points, HB.

[makiwara]

I say let the revrend doctor go about as planned, and have some one scan the newspapers in his area. I agree you don't let a man hit a woman, but you don't hit a man for almost hitting her either. Get her into an MA class dude, and take it from some one whose been there, Vigilante is more trouble than it's worth.

[WildWest.]

One of your ex-Marines was arrested in small town (they're all small towns but this was a particularly small town) NZ last year for trying to rob a local bank with his girlfriend. For some reason the local tinpot cops managed to arrest this killing machine at the scene of the crime with the help of their Glocks and the dude has since been put behind bars. I don't know if he was armed or not but if I can find the story I'll post it.

[WildWest.]

This is from the New Zealand Herald website.

The bank manager, his lover and the botched robbery
12:00AM Sunday June 25, 2006
By Miles Erwin


Mark Andrew Scott
It was a plan supposedly hatched over a pool table in a dark corner of the Wellsford Inn.

Two months ago, 39-year-old Wellsford BNZ manager Mark Andrew Scott - a former marine who served in the Gulf War, and his 27-year-old partner, Vanessa Scott - allegedly devised the ultimate inside job: to rob his bank of up to $130,000, said police.

However, while the plot appeared to be Bonnie and Clyde, police say it was more Dumb and Dumber.

"It would make a great movie - but it couldn't have serious actors. They would need Eddie Murphy and Adam Sandler," said Acting Detective Sergeant Kevin Burke.

Mark Scott now faces a charge of aggravated robbery and two charges of being a party to kidnap. Vanessa Scott is accused with Richard Murray Cowell, 26, and Lewis Blackwood- Manukau, 19, of kidnapping and aggravated robbery.

Vanessa Scott, Cowell and Blackwood-Manukau are alleged to have entered the bank last Tuesday wearing overalls and balaclavas and brandishing knives while Mark Scott and two other staff members were in a meeting, shortly before opening.


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AdvertisementIt is not clear how the robbers got into the bank but police say Mr Scott may have let them in.

Armed officers arrested one of the men as he fled out the back door of the bank, his pockets stuffed full of cash. A second man was caught trying to escape with bundles of cash hidden in a jersey. Two knives and a bag of cash were found near the back door.

Vanessa Scott is alleged to have escaped the scene.

Police said statements taken from Cowell and Blackwood-Manukau did not add up - and it soon became apparent "there was obviously some assistance, or an additional party, involved".

Mark and Vanessa Scott were arrested at their Wellsford home, where more cash is also alleged to have been found.

The pair had earlier been shopping in Orewa while police were interviewing two men captured at the scene.

None of the four entered a plea when they appeared at North Shore District Court on Wednesday. They were remanded in custody.

Mark Scott, a former finance manager, was said by former friends to be "in debt".

And the father of Mr Scott's partner Vanessa said: "He's supposed to be a bank manager - but he couldn't even manage his own finances.

"He's the last of the big spenders. He lives well beyond his means."

Mr Scott had run the Wellsford BNZ for 12 months. Ms Scott's lawyer Geoffrey Anderson would not make any comment but David Reece, Mr Scott's lawyer, said his client was still to make a decision on his plea.

While Ms Scott has fully co-operated with police, he has continued to deny the allegations.

Ms Scott's father told the Herald on Sunday his daughter was easily led: "One word sums her up - she's colourful. She accepts everybody at face value. She's too frigging trusting."

He described the former US naval marine reservist, who served in the 1991 Gulf War, as a "control freak" who dominated his daughter.

"The way he talked to her and treated her - to him she was just a chattel.

"He's very vain. He makes out he's a tough guy but he's yet to prove it.

"He talks the talk but he doesn't have the walk. When is he going to stand up and be a man - I just wish he would disappear."

The Scotts met in Australia a decade ago but they were never married. Sick of waiting for him to propose, she changed her name to Scott by deed poll.

When they met, Mr Scott was a financial adviser and Ms Scott a bar manager.

Their relationship was volatile. Ms Scott's father says when his daughter became pregnant, Mr Scott threw her out and refused to acknowledge the child was his.

After her father intervened, Mr Scott recognised his child and, after a series of break-ups, the couple settled down. After a brief spell in the United States, where Ms Scott's father says they were thrown out of Mr Scott's home and forced to live in a shelter, Vanessa's parents flew them back to Wellsford.

They arrived in July last year and Ms Scott's father got Mr Scott a job at Specific Security Services. He soon moved to his job at BNZ.

Bank spokeswoman Brenda Newth told the Herald on Sunday that thorough credit and criminal record checks had been carried out on Mr Scott before he was employed.

Ms Scott's father has been trying to sort out the couple's finances and said Mr Scott owed money to many - he was at least $15,000 in debt.

Mr Scott's lawyer, Mr Reece, told the Herald on Sunday he had not spoken with his client about his finances and could not confirm claims of mounting debts.

Ms Scott's father knew nothing of the alleged robbery plan until he spoke with his daughter in prison. He said she told him about a bungled raid, less than two months in the planning, that began around a pool table at the Wellsford Inn.

Ms Scott worked part-time at the Inn for about three months, while doing an acting course. Blackwood-Manukau and Cowell were regulars at the pub, where Cowell was a frequent winner at pool competitions. Mr Burke said police were not looking for anyone else in connection with the Wellsford robbery.

The bungled raid has left Ms Scott's parents looking after their granddaughter, who they say idolises her father.

Ms Scott's father has spent the week sifting through the couple's finances, moving their furniture out of their rented home and dealing with the gossip in a small country town.

He said he was just trying to pick up the pieces - it reminds him of another daughter, who died years ago. "I've already lost one daughter and now it looks like I've lost this one, too."

One of Mr Scott's former employers, Warren Hedley, of Specific Securities, said with his marine training Mr Scott was the perfect security guard. "He always wanted action.

"He could take out four or five guys by himself, no problem," Mr Hedley said.

"I tried to do the right thing by him, to give him a job and a cheap house. Mark by himself was nice. His wife was the problem."

He described Ms Scott as "snobby and self-centred", and that her dreams of stardom in Hollywood had faded - but her ego had not.

After falling out with Mr Hedley about three months ago, the Scotts moved into a red-brick home in the main street in Wellsford. Neighbours said the couple kept to themselves and that they rarely went out, although Mark Scott could sometimes be seen smoking outside the house.