Gunman Kills 21 on Virginia Tech campus

[treelizard]

hitting the enter key on your keyboard to post superhero fantasy replies of what you would or wouldnt do if you were in certain situations that you werent in is much faster than both of those.

Whatever. Go hide under a desk.

[DickHardman]

So what's faster, getting out a gun or dropping under a desk?

hitting the enter key on your keyboard to post superhero fantasy replies of what you would or wouldnt do if you were in certain situations that you werent in is much faster than both of those.

[treelizard]

The odds on hiding under a desk suck more. I'd rather go out fighting.

And guns aren't the only weapon. A pen is a weapon. A desk is a weapon.

[treelizard]

i dont know about that. thats highly debatable.

You have to act as decisively and as fast or faster as the attacker. Period. If you don't think you can do that or that it's possible when you're NOT in a situation you're not going to develop that ability DURING a situation. So while it's true that some people may say they would do something and not actually do it, I think it's pretty impossible for someone who doesn't even THINK he can take action to take action.

[Sagacious Lu]

A gun would help but even without a gun you just need a guy to pick up the fucking table and rush him and another guy to go around the side and slam him with a chair. Or SOMETHING. I'm sure once they started other people would be more likely to help.

Maybe, but the odds on that idea suck. The thing is even if you have the right to carry a concealed weapon normally you can't in a school. That means that if you bring a weapon into a school you have the only weapon in the building. That puts a lot of power into the hands of a person who's willing to break the law.

[treelizard]

um, a gun is faster to operate than walking over to an object, picking that object up, then walking over to your target, and then trying to hit him with it.

in fact, that is the whole idea behind the gun. to hit people with objects from were you stand.

So what's faster, getting out a gun or dropping under a desk?

[DickHardman]

I'm about a zillion times more likely to than someone who has decided ahead of time that nobody is capable of fighting back.

i dont know about that. thats highly debatable.

[DickHardman]

So if you have a gun, you suddenly have the time and clarity of mind to stop an attacker? I'm all for guns, but if you need a gun to be able to fight back you should get additional training.

um, a gun is faster to operate than walking over to an object, picking that object up, then walking over to your target, and then trying to hit him with it.

in fact, that is the whole idea behind the gun. to hit people with objects from were you stand.

[treelizard]

oh im sure you would. that still doesnt mean you will be able to when the time arises.

I'm about a zillion times more likely to than someone who has decided ahead of time that nobody is capable of fighting back.

[treelizard]

it would have increased the chances of stopping the rampaging gunman, thats for sure.

So if you have a gun, you suddenly have the time and clarity of mind to stop an attacker? I'm all for guns, but if you need a gun to be able to fight back you should get additional training.

[DickHardman]

I'd rather get killed protecting other people than get killed hiding underneath a desk.

oh im sure you would. that still doesnt mean you will be able to when the time arises.

[treelizard]

Yes, people HAVE had the tme and clarity of mind to fight back against attackers EVEN AFTER they've been shot.

I'd rather get killed protecting other people than get killed hiding underneath a desk.

LOL. you really think that when someone has just opened fire on you with a gun that you have the kind of time and clarity of mind to simply go over to a table or chair, pick it up, then go all the way over to the attacker and then try to hit him with it? are you kidding? dude, you watch way too many movies. what you see in hollywood movies is not the same as in real life.

i heard one of the dead professors was a military man. im sure he would have stopped the gunman if he could have.

[DickHardman]

A gun would help but even without a gun you just need a guy to pick up the fucking table and rush him and another guy to go around the side and slam him with a chair. Or SOMETHING. I'm sure once they started other people would be more likely to help.

LOL. you really think that when someone has just opened fire on you with a gun that you have the kind of time and clarity of mind to simply go over to a table or chair, pick it up, then go all the way over to the attacker and then try to hit him with it? are you kidding? dude, you watch way too many movies. what you see in hollywood movies is not the same as in real life.

i heard one of the dead professors was a military man. im sure he would have stopped the gunman if he could have.

[Troll Virus]

It's tragic.

See quite a few 'survivalists were jumping out of windows 25 feet up, with one breaking his leg.

[treelizard]

What the hell are people training for, anyway? That's what I want to know.