Best Martial Art for Self-Defense?

[Da Pope]

Not so fast... Police get prosecuted for crimes just like any civilian.

LMAO

The practical SD benefits of being a doorman would be learning to negotiate with belligerent idiots. .

A great skill to have.

As far as hands on practical protection skills go KOTF is right about fighting with drunkards... You would probably be better served cage fighting in open tournaments.

Not all people who kick off are drunk and good percentage (depending on the kinda place you work) can be speeding/coked up/just plain psychotic/all the above including drunk. The sheer unpredictableness of this kind of work can really sharpen your wits.

[GQchris]

I currently train at a boxing/muay thai gym but not looking to fight in the ring, although its great getting the aliveness training and distance and timing down; I'll be here for a little while longer and then I may go check out some Krav Maga schools.

[kingoftheforest]

Been there and done that, USMC 93-97.

Great. Now take the practical experience you gained from combat training and enhance it with arts or styles that take SD into account.

Surroundings, clothing (are some moves reliant on the other guy wearing a Gi ect), weapons, retention and defense. All the tools you'd feel would be valuable in a real life altercation.

Find what works for what you work with. Sparring is good, as well as contact drills. I'm sure you understand that reality and drills differ greatly, but if you put realism and the proper mindset into the drills, it breeds specific reactions.

No one style will cover everything that would be useful. But trying to find some place to "try out your skills" is a recipe for jail time or a grave, nothing more.

[GQchris]

NOt really. You have a good chance of getting gang attacked going to your car after the work day (night) is over. On top of that drunks aren't the best people to learn off of. Beating up drunks is easy.

If you really want practical combat experience, either join the armed forces or become a contractor. Being a doorman only draws wannabes punks and people who really have no clue.

You'll get in more fights with guys wearing "NO Fear" shirts than you will with people you can learn from.

Been there and done that, USMC 93-97.

[Da Pope]

Would you ever reccomend to someone becoming a Doorman to get practical OJT in self defense?

Yes or join the polce and avoid any chance of prosecution

[kingoftheforest]

Would you ever reccomend to someone becoming a Doorman to get practical OJT in self defense?

NOt really. You have a good chance of getting gang attacked going to your car after the work day (night) is over. On top of that drunks aren't the best people to learn off of. Beating up drunks is easy.

If you really want practical combat experience, either join the armed forces or become a contractor. Being a doorman only draws wannabes punks and people who really have no clue.

You'll get in more fights with guys wearing "NO Fear" shirts than you will with people you can learn from.

[GQchris]

I'm with you Tanto. I had the advantage of some formal training from been there done that's, when I was a kid. had an uncle who was a bar boxer in Tennessee in his younger days, and another uncle who was a wrestling coach.

I fought a lot as a teen, and got jobs bouncing in clubs and bottle clubs in my early 20's. I've had a few bottles busted on me, and I've had some holes sewn shut as well.

I've never had the pleasure of having to explain things to the law. they never seemed to get involved. Strip clubs and bikers not there favorite call.

You learn somethings as you go, but it's not good to try to learn all of the in the heat of the moment.
Not matter what it's never pretty and it always seems to leave a bad taste in your mouth.

Would you ever reccomend to someone becoming a Doorman to get practical OJT in self defense?

[GQchris]

Would you ever reccomend to someone becoming a Doorman to get practical OJT in self defense?

[kingoftheforest]

Wow, that's a job that can get hairy real quick. I had the opportunity to do security work at a casino here, but I had just got engaged and decided not to. My son is 4 and he already mimics some of the forms.

I'm gonna have to step it up to be able to handle him when he's a teen. (-:

[kingoftheforest]

I'm with you Tanto. I had the advantage of some formal training from been there done that's, when I was a kid. had an uncle who was a bar boxer in Tennessee in his younger days, and another uncle who was a wrestling coach.

I fought a lot as a teen, and got jobs bouncing in clubs and bottle clubs in my early 20's. I've had a few bottles busted on me, and I've had some holes sewn shut as well.

I've never had the pleasure of having to explain things to the law. they never seemed to get involved. Strip clubs and bikers not there favorite call.

You learn somethings as you go, but it's not good to try to learn all of the in the heat of the moment.
Not matter what it's never pretty and it always seems to leave a bad taste in your mouth.

[kingoftheforest]

I don't disagree that you should have some real contact to learn what you are doing. bruises bumps and broken bones happen in training. Some times cuts and scratches too huh Tant?

Getting wacked upside the head is part of the learning process. If you don't get hit then you're just learning to dance.

[jubaji]

Now, back to the topic at hand:

I would, in the spirit of learning and open discussion, be interested in hearing from the proponents of RBSD (to which this sub-forum is dedicated) of real and specific instances where they relied on their training and how that worked out for them. I believe that is exactly pertinent to this topic. I do not ask in order to denounce anyone's training or philosophy (unlike, of course, others here) and I will take any and all examples at the word of whomever offers them. No trick, no insult, no kidding.

[jubaji]

My "reading comprehension" comment was based directly on the fact that a certain someone's conclusion did not match my comments to which he was referring. I agree that the entire subject was off-topic but then another certain someone brought it up in the first place, not me.

But I continue to digress...back to the topic...

[jubaji]

He's an attention whore.
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I guess that's why you ignore me all the time. Good idea.

[Uke]

Wow now it's racist to call sumo wrestlers Japanese or is it cause he called them fat?

Since this reply of yours makes no sense whatsoever. Or are you trying to say your homosexual status is now a race and your panties got wadded because he brought it up?

What did I tell you, DJForest?

That idiot jubidoo will say and accuse anyone of anything to get their undivided attention. He's an attention whore. Just like all doggies are. Right now he's wagging his tail and getting excited at his computer because you seem to care.

We both know that he won't man up and discuss anything worthwhile.

We both know that he's an ass kisser to such a disgusting degree that he has brown streaks across his head and body.

Let him feel like what he's doing is important. He certainly puts LOTS AND LOTS of time and effort into it.

Its probably a healthy outlet for him.

That still doesn't change the fact that he'd rather request and exchange "war stories" on the internet than go see for himself. He's a pussy that way and he's ok with that. A lot of people who have frequented this site are the same. This site was aptly nicknamed "Pretend.net" for a damned good reason.

So let's just agree to say "**** it" and do what feels right at any given moment.