Kicks at the fight

[black knife]

[QUOTE=Da Pope;343344]You're just exposing your lack of practical knowledge here. The timing and set up of kicks are very effective in MT.

No I wouldnt try and kick a door down with my shin and your attempt at reductio ad absurdum is just helping your own ignorance flourish rather than prooving a point.[/QUOTE. I did not think that was a good way to prove his point either. I don't know how we went from kicking someomes leg to kicking down a door

[kingoftheforest]

You're just exposing your lack of practical knowledge here. The timing and set up of kicks are very effective in MT.

No I wouldn't try and kick a door down with my shin and your attempt at reductio ad absurdum is just helping your own ignorance flourish rather than prooving a point.

And you're spelling is atrocious.

Little fap puddles like you and jubs there do nothing but run around forums and talk shit about people you have never met or know nothing about, while you continuously refuse to post anything of relevance to any conversation.

It also seems that you are unable to post on this forum without myself posting first pope. Things slow at trollshido since dicktuck got booted?

Every time someone points out that there is a way to do something outside of what's taught at a gracie school you come out of the wood work to marginalize someone.

Answer my question, which has more structural integrity mister engineer, the top of a concrete column or the side?

If I smash the column down on top I'm betting it will do less damage than the same force against the side. I'm sure you'll find a way to disagree.

Black knife I am not going to trade war stories with a bunch of wannabes on a forum (I don't know you well enough to call you a wannabe but the rest know they are). To be frank I can't give you a play by play on any of my altercations, none have been caught on tape and usually I'm to busy defending myself to take notes on what happened.

Anyone who can tell you exactly what happened in a fight is either full of shit or in high school, that's if it was a real fight and not bullshit posturing and windmill swinging.

I don't have to prove anything to any of these fap wads here. They're here to chuckle at how slick they think they are.

And unless you are talking about side kicking some one's knee in, then know I don't use any higher side kick than to the knee. have I used a side kick to the knee in a fight, yes it usually f*cks the knee up pretty bad if you use intent.

I am talking about stomp kicks however when I talk about kicks. Look up some of Applegate's stuff look at how he used the stomp kick.

IN MY OPINION it works a hell of a lot better than the top of your foot, and you don't have to take all day and a huge arch to get power to it.

[kingoftheforest]

No I would not think so..........if someone asked me I would not hesitate

Sure since you make all your shit up from a story book or other people's fight stories you've badgered them for.

Why don't you rehash the fabulous knife suplex story so we can smell how full of shit you are again.

[kingoftheforest]

I never imagined the thread might evolve into a virtual flame war LOL

I kick doors, you kick ass, she kicks our balls? Who really thinks Kung- fu sux?

MT is the best, BJJ sucks what? Etc?


And I care why again?

Oh, that's right! I DON'T!!!

I don't care who uses what style nor can anyone say that I've said any style mentioned in this thread is "the wrong one"

As for civility follow the Golden Rule.

Or the one where people won't say this shit to you face to face, and they know this.

[kingoftheforest]

If folks have little more to do here than virtually attack each other... I have better things to do.

Still busy banning spammers!

Enjoy!

~R.

Press on with the good fight and keep the toxic green love in your heart.

[kingoftheforest]

I'm sure I'm not the only member/moderator that wishes we could face each other, shake hands or embrace and touch gloves!

It would really be much easier to stomp a troll than try to explain the intent to stomp.

Slugs and turds (no offense intended) lets make a mess! stomp it into a goo puddle then stomp it dry!

You are more than welcome to my humble shack anytime. I've had some members stop by before. Had some toxic friends too.

[kingoftheforest]

the topic again (yawn)...

If you wear boots shin scrapes are good, right down to a foot stomp.

[black knife]

Sure since you make all your shit up from a story book or other people's fight stories you've badgered them for.

Why don't you rehash the fabulous knife suplex story so we can smell how full of shit you are again.

Hmmmm. I don't recall that one I better look it up. Look son before you go calling people names you better know who or what you are talking about. I don't know your background and I can careless. You stick to your side kicks and I will stick to what I have used for many years. I have been in a lot of fights in my 42 years of life and I have not been seriously hurt yet. Unless you have been in my shoes and seen what I have seen don't come on here and tell me that I make up stories. I have nothing to prove to anyone because I know I can hurt someone real bad if I have to. I train everyday twice a day sometimes more because it is my way of making a living. Now if you have something to prove because you lack confidence in your fighting skills then you need to deal with it.

Of all the people on this forum you are the only that comes off as a know it all. I don't what you makes you an expert on fighting or who told you were one. Everybody on this forum trains and has an idea what to do. Yet you come on here correcting everybody when they give their opinion. It is okay to give advice but don't act that whatever you say is gold or is the only way.

[jubaji]

No I would not think so..........if someone asked me I would not hesitate

Unless...unless one really had nothing to say because one had no actual experience...hmmm...

[jubaji]

people won't say this shit to you face to face, and they know this.

Some won't say anything at all, because they really have nothing to say.

[Tom Yum]

Kicks

The kick is a weapon to add to your toolbox; nothing more, nothing less...

Pros:
bigger muscles used, generates more striking power
not common, more deceptive
keeps distance for offensive weapons: keep someone in better shooting, OC spray range, baton striking range
targets to foot, shin, knee/back knee, carotid, groin, solar plexus etc.

Cons:
longer limb, not as effective in tighter spaces
makes fighter temporarily off balance
suspect to grabbing and takedown/sweep attempts
not generally effective as defense against weapons

[kingoftheforest]

Hmmmm. I don't recall that one I better look it up. Look son before you go calling people names you better know who or what you are talking about. I don't know your background and I can careless. You stick to your side kicks

I stopped reading what you wrote here because it's obvious you haven't read anything I've posted.

I'll tell you again I am talking about stomp kicks not side kicks. So back and reread the thread and try again son

As for what you quoted that was directed at jubaji he knows what it means, so unbunch your panties.

[kingoftheforest]

The kick is a weapon to add to your toolbox; nothing more, nothing less...

Pros:
bigger muscles used, generates more striking power
not common, more deceptive
keeps distance for offensive weapons: keep someone in better shooting, OC spray range, baton striking range
targets to foot, shin, knee/back knee, carotid, groin, solar plexus etc.

Cons:
longer limb, not as effective in tighter spaces
makes fighter temporarily off balance
suspect to grabbing and takedown/sweep attempts
not generally effective as defense against weapons

Nice.................

[Da Pope]

And you're spelling is atrocious.

Little fap puddles like you and jubs there do nothing but run around forums and talk shit about people you have never met or know nothing about, while you continuously refuse to post anything of relevance to any conversation.

It also seems that you are unable to post on this forum without myself posting first pope. Things slow at trollshido since dicktuck got booted?

Every time someone points out that there is a way to do something outside of what's taught at a gracie school you come out of the wood work to marginalize someone.

Answer my question, which has more structural integrity mister engineer, the top of a concrete column or the side?

If I smash the column down on top I'm betting it will do less damage than the same force against the side. I'm sure you'll find a way to disagree.

Black knife I am not going to trade war stories with a bunch of wannabes on a forum (I don't know you well enough to call you a wannabe but the rest know they are). To be frank I can't give you a play by play on any of my altercations, none have been caught on tape and usually I'm to busy defending myself to take notes on what happened.

Anyone who can tell you exactly what happened in a fight is either full of shit or in high school, that's if it was a real fight and not bullshit posturing and windmill swinging.

I don't have to prove anything to any of these fap wads here. They're here to chuckle at how slick they think they are.

And unless you are talking about side kicking some one's knee in, then know I don't use any higher side kick than to the knee. have I used a side kick to the knee in a fight, yes it usually f*cks the knee up pretty bad if you use intent.

I am talking about stomp kicks however when I talk about kicks. Look up some of Applegate's stuff look at how he used the stomp kick.

IN MY OPINION it works a hell of a lot better than the top of your foot, and you don't have to take all day and a huge arch to get power to it.

LMAO!!! My smelling is just fine!

Sure a stompy front kick is a useful thing but it (like every other technique) is limited to range and also to easy evasion. The shin kick is also limited but has its place and can be a very effective strike, also it can be pulled off at fairly close range.

To discount it and say ridiculous things like "Well that will get your leg broken" is just silly.

Answer my question, which has more structural integrity mister engineer, the top of a concrete column or the side?

Well that depends on what its made from doesnt it. As we are talking about legs then yes, legs are stronger in axial compression than they are under trasnverse loading. This does not mean that striking with the shin is ineffective though.

[kingoftheforest]

LMAO!!! My smelling is just fine!

Sure a stompy front kick is a useful thing but it (like every other technique) is limited to range and also to easy evasion. The shin kick is also limited but has its place and can be a very effective strike, also it can be pulled off at fairly close range.

To discount it and say ridiculous things like "Well that will get your leg broken" is just silly.

Actually properly practiced the stomp kick can even be used in a clinch situation the targets are just a little different.
And yes there is no move that is 100% effective all the time, however I prefer to train moves that are less likely to end in my appendage being broken.
Also the shin kick requires an arch to generate power, which means it covers more distance and takes more time, it also takes away from forward pressure, which in an urban environment is something you want to keep applying in the fight.

The stomp kick when properly employed, does not mean lean back and kick like a teep kick but is applied with forward momentum and it doesn't end with the contact to the opponent, but instead you "step down" once contact is made as if you are going to walk up the person.

I never said the shin kick was dumb or ineffective, but apparently reading comprehension is not a huge skill on this forum, or people just like to twist things to make themselves look better. All I did was point out that very many people on record have broken their shins using it. Is the percentage greater than, than not? No, but I'll stick with what I feel is best and you have every right to do the same.

Well that depends on what its made from doesnt it. As we are talking about legs then yes, legs are stronger in axial compression than they are under trasnverse loading. This does not mean that striking with the shin is ineffective though.

See now if you stop and read instead of just jumping to conclusions than you can actually see my point, and use a bunch of big misspelled words to do it.