Rape Epidemic

[MrMoyer]

In my armchair warrior opinion, I would advocate karate + bjj.

Karate to inflict quick damage in stand up somewhat close quarters, then bjj so they can fight from the ground if someone overpowered them tried to mount them.

I tend to disagree that karate would be the choice along with BJJ. I love my karate, trained in it for 10 years, however, Krav Maga would give the person all the techniques required in a shorter amount of time. If the person wants long benefits from training than karate, is great. However, if they want to defend themselves, Krav Maga is best because you are given the tools from the jump.

[47MartialMan]

1st off, get the **** out of india.

2nd, i think bjj would be pretty good for women to learn. think of the positiongs women are in when they are being raped. if the woman was trained in bjj, the attacker would be putting himself right in her guard, making him the victim. bjj would allow her to escape from or even destroy her would be rapist.

1st, how can anyone, in a improvished-violent area, truely afford to leave a place surrounded by violence. How can anyone, for that matter, truely escape violence?

2nd, not one art, nor one tactic, be considered to overcome a particular situation.

[47MartialMan]

Start with proper mindset. Then explain a couple of techniques that work?

Mindset-that is the first start.....

One must realize that there is a mentality, a mindset, when dealing with defense issues. This cannot be ruled out and seems to be the very foundation and starting point long before physical applications/tactics.

Ive seen people with the mindset/mentality to train hard and nurture the idea that they can be combat ready. In turn, get beat, stabbed, and shot because they had lacked the total mentality/mindset of other aspects of defense.

I've seen people with no training, overcome and defend themselves to a bitter end. People that appear to be weak, but had the proper mentality/mindset to do what was needed.

For a concise course, one needs to examine the mind. For perhaps a start, commence with simple Psychology research.

[Tom Yum]

Share.....sure.......but it is research and ateentance of decades....how can I share this in one sitting or per a forum?

Start with proper mindset. Then explain a couple of techniques that work?

[47MartialMan]

You gonna share any of this info, man?

Share.....sure.......but it is research and attendance of decades....how can I share this in one sitting or per a forum?

I posted my expereince(s) as a mere suggestion on how one can really get a concise program going. very concise and beyind a single teaching method such as physical martial art tactics.

[treelizard]

I have been tracking rape, assault, muggings, and road rage for some time.

Understanding these help me conduct and learn more about self defense.

In fact, before I taught my first defense class, my old instructor suggested that I attend rape seminars and seek out study beyond physical defenses.

You gonna share any of this info, man?

[47MartialMan]

Well, it may make some other headlines

[Penance]

This would make an awesome documentary movie. Elite American martial artists go to india and crossdress. When a would be rapist tries to assault them, the cameras are rolling to tape them getting their asses beat down.

[47MartialMan]

I have been tracking rape, assault, muggings, and road rage for some time.

Understanding these help me conduct and learn more about self defense.

In fact, before I taught my first defense class, my old instructor suggested that I attend rape seminars and seek out study beyond physical defenses.

[Danny Flucke]

Ehlers, who showed off a prototype on Wednesday, said women had tried it for comfort and it had been tested on a plastic male model but not yet on a live man.

What do you think THAT job will pay...?

Thanks, Danny

[Gard]

Why not just place a device in there, that will cut the penis off.

[Oraenor]

Heres somthing interesting:

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KLEINMOND, South Africa (Reuters) - A South African inventor unveiled a new anti-rape female condom on Wednesday that hooks onto an attacker's penis and aims to cut one of the highest rates of sexual assault in the world.

"Nothing has ever been done to help a woman so that she does not get raped and I thought it was high time," Sonette Ehlers, 57, said of the "rapex," a device worn like a tampon that has sparked controversy in a country used to daily reports of violent crime.

Police statistics show more than 50,000 rapes are reported every year, while experts say the real figure could be four times that as they say most rapes of acquaintances or children are never reported.

Ehlers said the "rapex" hooks onto the rapist's skin, allowing the victim time to escape and helping to identify perpetrators.

"He will obviously be too pre-occupied at this stage," she told reporters in Kleinmond, a small holiday village about 100km (60 miles) east of Cape Town. "I promise you he is going to be too sore. He will go straight to hospital."

The device, made of latex and held firm by shafts of sharp barbs, can only be removed from the man through surgery which will alert hospital staff, and ultimately, the police, she said.

It also reduces the chances of a woman falling pregnant or contracting
AIDS and other sexually transmitted diseases from the attacker by acting in the same way as a female condom.

South Africa has more people with
HIV/AIDS than any other country, with one in nine of its 45 million population infected.

Ehlers, who showed off a prototype on Wednesday, said women had tried it for comfort and it had been tested on a plastic male model but not yet on a live man. Production was planned to start next year.

But the "rapex" has raised fears amongst anti-rape activists that it could escalate violence against women.

"If a victim is wearing such a device it may enrage the attacker further and possibly result in more harm being caused," said Sam Waterhouse, advocacy coordinator for Rape Crisis.

Other critics say the condom is medieval and barbaric -- an accusation Ehlers says should be directed rather at the act of rape.

"This is not about vengeance ... but the deed, that is what I hate," she said.
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[LoneHusky]

1st off, get the **** out of india.

2nd, i think bjj would be pretty good for women to learn. think of the positiongs women are in when they are being raped. if the woman was trained in bjj, the attacker would be putting himself right in her guard, making him the victim. bjj would allow her to escape from or even destroy her would be rapist.

here's to choosing to destroy rapists. *clink*

[HtTKar]

I've been reading more on this, mostly trying to find out exactly what Wenlido is. Though I have found nothing on Wenlido other than basic sales pitches, I have found out more about the rape epidemic. Its really not all that different from anywhere else. Maybe reading up on the causes of why this is happening in India can give better clues to why it happens anywhere else on such a large scale. Particularly college campuses. Read below and see how familiar this sounds.

http://www.indiatogether.org/2003/nov/edu-campviol.htm

Campus violence assumes several virulent forms, the commonest being ragging and the growing harassment of women students. Of these, ragging has received intense attention while the growing harassment of women students remains a hushed affair. To a great extent campus life in the nation’s beleaguered institutions of higher education is a mirror image of an ‘illiberal democracy’ — characterised by the rise of particularisms such as caste and religious identities against the backdrop of crumbling law and order and other institutional mechanisms. But a particularly reprehensible feature of rising campus violence is that it stamps the mind of the barely adult college goer with a lasting, unpleasant impression of the real world beyond college gates.

traces the origin of campus violence to “the degradation of the social fabric”. “People with values who live by the rules are regarded as weak individuals who will never quite make the grade. Aggression is looked upon as a positive trait. This attitude is sometimes encouraged by parents who tell their children that they are unlikely to be successful unless they become aggr-essive. This message is intensified in schools where overcrowded classrooms make it difficult for teachers to pay attention to committed and quiet students. In universities an 18-21 year old though technically an adult, seldom has the emotional maturity to know where to draw the line when it comes to violent behaviour or sexual harassment. For this the media is also to blame. Cover stories in the print media scream about hitherto taboo subjects such as pre-marital sex, kissing on screen etc. The question is, whether this attitude is supported by what the student sees at home. Sexual awareness coupled with the contradictory messages they get from their homes and the inability of young adults to talk with significant adults in their lives about these matters degenerates into campus violence and sexual harassment,” says Chib.

Chennai believes that ragging which has morphed into campus violence is a foreign import unsuited to Indian conditions and needs to be dealt with sternly. “In foreign countries ragging is meant to toughen freshers. Indian youth lack the mental toughness of their western counterparts. Colleges in India are certainly not safer than elsewhere and unless stern measures are adopted to curb the menace of ragging and adequate security is provided to students by college authorities, it will lead to escalating campus violence,” warns Parthiban.

university administrators refuse to acknowledge the magnitude of the problem. By regarding the problem as ‘normal’, institutional managements systematically legitimise it. Such legitimisation of groping, molestation and worse often results in blameless women students internalising male perceptions of sexual harassment and losing self-esteem, aver psychologists. They not only doubt the validity of their own experiences but begin to believe that they themselves are ‘abnormal’, ‘cheap’, ‘indecent’ or deserving the violence directed against them.
Indeed blaming the victims rather than campus hooligans and law-breakers is a pervasive attitude within police personnel, even policewomen. “Wherever there are boys and girls together, some mischief is to be expected. And practically speaking some part of the onus for this lies on the girls. A lot depends on how the girl dresses up and how she conducts herself,”

They call it an epidemic. Puts things into perspective.

[Tom Yum]

1st off, get the **** out of india..

right ....and that's easy as 123.

2nd, i think bjj would be pretty good for women to learn. think of the positiongs women are in when they are being raped. if the woman was trained in bjj, the attacker would be putting himself right in her guard, making him the victim. bjj would allow her to escape from or even destroy her would be rapist.

Good point.

In my armchair warrior opinion, I would advocate karate + bjj.

Karate to inflict quick damage in stand up somewhat close quarters, then bjj so they can fight from the ground if someone overpowered them tried to mount them.