Women: Importance of reality-based training

In addition to working on a variety of skills, it is essential to actually test those skills before spouting off about having any particular ability with them.

Go tell that to the police officer who has trained to kill with his gun, or the martial artist who has trained to kill with a sword, or other weapons. Or to the martial artist who has learned techniques that will kill, with his hands using techniques that have been proven to work in actual war and real life survival combat in the past.

Your argument is not wise and it seems you are in a wrong understanding of these things.

[cqdtonline]

There he is, well stated

[jubaji]

Anything to add to the above discussion jubaji? You seem to be all over this forum it would be good to hear your thoughts.

I think women, like men, should develop the widest - and preferably deepest - set of skills they can. I don't think it is a good idea to neglect any particular area just because some asshole on the internet has an agenda to sell. Circumstance, opportunity, and personal preference tend to result in individuals having a stronger set of skills in one area than another, but the impotance of comprehensive skills holds nonetheless.

In addition to working on a variety of skills, it is essential to actually test those skills before spouting off about having any particular ability with them.

[treelizard]

that was really mediocre jits

[Tant01]

There is a good deal to be said for discernment.

While I don't expect much, I always hope...

Welcome to the madhouse.

[cqdtonline]

lol true, leave it to me to take a video comment seriously

[Tant01]

for play...

Lets be serious now, I wasnt going to comment on that video but...Its obvious that the women and man there are in a training setting right. ......

Well... it didn't look like she was going for blood... Nor was he.

I like to play that... unless they bite? LOL

[cqdtonline]

I agree mellow, and the point here was that the woman in the video isnt showing that she cound submit anyone, its just a.....interesting recording of 2 people training together in BJJ.

[mellow]

Of course it's not a fight, it's a training session and from the look of it a good one (again, I'll let a BJJ player comment on how good) that's how you learn.

In all fairness, if someone posted a training video of say, Kung Fu, executed this halfheartedly, it would have been laughed at and the poster lambasted. But because it had the title of BJJ, it's magically deliciously super effective.

[Sagacious Lu]

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which if you notice she never even really did anything but go from position to position (which is the point mind you, because shes in GRAPPLING training...not ESCAPE WITH YOUR LIFE training).

That's right, that's how she's learning to control positioning.

Hes being a good partner, applying technique then allowing some room to escape, then moving to the next position. This is not a woman fending off some serious BJJ practicing male, or even some guy on the street. They are giggling for god sake, why are we acting like they are really going at it??? Do not mistake this for a fight video,

Of course it's not a fight, it's a training session and from the look of it a good one (again, I'll let a BJJ player comment on how good) that's how you learn.

This is playing around after class, flirting with the cute girl in your BJJ class.

I was waiting for someone to take her less seriously because she's attractive. That's one of the reasons more women don't train seriously.

She is obviously more competent then an untrained person though.

Clearly, and she's only going to get better the more she trains.

[cqdtonline]

Lets be serious now, I wasnt going to comment on that video but...Its obvious that the women and man there are in a training setting right. Well, when your a man training with a woman (as he is), and you can toss her around like a rag doll (which he does), and you can gain openings for any position you want (which he does), why not just beat the crap out of her or choke her out? BECAUSE your in training and your partner cannot learn if you dont help them along. This is the case in the video, a woman learning grappling technique....which if you notice she never even really did anything but go from position to position (which is the point mind you, because shes in GRAPPLING training...not ESCAPE WITH YOUR LIFE training).

Hes being a good partner, applying technique then allowing some room to escape, then moving to the next position. This is not a woman fending off some serious BJJ practicing male, or even some guy on the street. They are giggling for god sake, why are we acting like they are really going at it??? Do not mistake this for a fight video, and try not to credit BJJ for street practicality too much based on this video. This is playing around after class, flirting with the cute girl in your BJJ class.

And she couldnt stab him...thats against the rules ; )

Though i have a feeling if they were on the street and she took out a knife not knowing how to use it she would be overpowered and the knife would then be used against her (very common).

She is obviously more competent then an untrained person though.

[Sagacious Lu]

YouTube - Women's self defense grappling

I'll let someone who actually practices BJJ comment on the skills of the two people training in this video, but obviously that's a woman who's serious about learning skills that she'll be able to use. The original poster talked about the importance of positioning (which I agree is incredibly important) and rolling like that is going to give her very viable tools for controlling her position. Not only that if you read the comments she submits that guy around half the time they roll and he does BJJ too. That means she probably can choke an untrained guy that size, and in a lot less time than that video took too. Obviously she's not content with some well-marketed weekend seminar, she's willing to train hard on a regular basis.

*Waits for someone to ask why she didn't just pull a knife and stab the guy*

[Tant01]

What of Jujutsu?

I couldn't agree more.

Even though Jujitsu has some good techniques, I would be weary if I was a woman to go down that road for self defense.

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I would be no less weary of "kung-fu" TC. Jujutsu is NOT limited to ground grappling techniques.

A good portion of JUJUTSU is Atemi (VITAL POINT STRIKING) The goal of jujutsu is destruction. The goal of Judo is submission. One you can play with your friends, the other is for KILLING or maiming "enemies"...

Don't confuse sport fighting with jujutsu...

That would be BJJ or "Brazilian JIU-JITSU"

[cqdtonline]

Anything to add to the above discussion jubaji? You seem to be all over this forum it would be good to hear your thoughts.

[jubaji]

You would be "weary?" I think we are all weary of seeing you post the same damn thing over and over, troll.