On the mat with Jubidoo

[kingoftheforest]

I asked about just the basic shoot. Can you answer that?

There's really no such thing if you think about it. There are many kinds of shots and dozens of combinations of various finishes and counters and such.

And WTF is this?

No I didn't, you lying sack of shit.

Up till this point it was civil more so than usual, but this ends what could loosely be called a conversation. Don't take your angst out on me because you were made to look like a fool and have no other recourse than to show how crude and uneducated you really are.

Good Day.

[jubaji]

I showed your explanation (we'll call it that for simplicities sake) to a HS wrestling coach

Oh really?

Did you ask this 'coach' (on the very remote chance he exists) if during a shot you should "lead" with your head, meaning you deliberately put it out ahead of your body as the first line of penetration? No, you didn't, you dishonest sack of shit.

[jubaji]

the study of meanings: a : the historical and psychological study and the classification of changes in the signification of words or forms viewed as factors in linguistic development b (1) : semiotic (2) : a branch of semiotic dealing with the relations between signs and what they refer to and including theories of denotation, extension, naming, and truth
2
: general semantics
3
a : the meaning or relationship of meanings of a sign or set of signs; especially : connotative meaning b : the language used (as in advertising or political propaganda) to achieve a desired effect on an audience especially through the use of words with novel or dual meanings



If it's the study of meaning then lets study this.

In the basic wrassler set the head is out past everything. The head is the first thing to move, even before the lead leg.

Now if it's the headless horseman wrasslin then yes his head won't lead unless he throws it at you before the shoot.

Otherwise it's going to be out in front of the body and everything else, therefore in the lead, like the guy at the front of the race, he's in the lead..

You go to all the trouble of learning a new word but you stil don't understand what it means. What a simpleton.

[jubaji]

"There is no basic shoot..." I can put that in quotes cause yes you did say that.

No I didn't, you lying sack of shit.

[jubaji]

As for semantics, that's a big word for you

Speak for yourself, moron.

[kingoftheforest]

Yeah I'm not experienced enough in double speak and bullshit sifting to understand your explanation.

As for semantics, that's a big word for you

the study of meanings: a : the historical and psychological study and the classification of changes in the signification of words or forms viewed as factors in linguistic development b (1) : semiotic (2) : a branch of semiotic dealing with the relations between signs and what they refer to and including theories of denotation, extension, naming, and truth
2
: general semantics
3
a : the meaning or relationship of meanings of a sign or set of signs; especially : connotative meaning b : the language used (as in advertising or political propaganda) to achieve a desired effect on an audience especially through the use of words with novel or dual meanings



If it's the study of meaning then lets study this.

In the basic wrassler set the head is out past everything. The head is the first thing to move, even before the lead leg.

Now if it's the headless horseman wrasslin then yes his head won't lead unless he throws it at you before the shoot.

Otherwise it's going to be out in front of the body and everything else, therefore in the lead, like the guy at the front of the race, he's in the lead.

There is no need to interpret that the thing in front of everything else is leading and everything else is following.

I showed your explanation (we'll call it that for simplicities sake) to a HS wrestling coach and he got to the


"There is no basic shoot..." I can put that in quotes cause yes you did say that.

He read up to there and then asked me what 11 year old told me that and he didn't have time to waste on whatever bullshit came after it.

[mellow]

In this first post, we will discuss the foundation of jubaji's street lethal knife disarming techniques.



It is something to behold as I have never seen any master or authority of ANY self defense system do it quite like this.



Observe:

Observe the excellent form and the way jubaji teaches to control the weapon arm no matter how much the dummy resists. And like jubaji says those dummies are p-r-e-t-t-y strong and wirey.



This is really advanced stuff people, but its just the basics of jubaji's street lethal system.



Now some of you may doubt the effectiveness of of this technique, but let me assure you that I've been assured by Jubaji that it completely works. In fact, he didn't just tell me it works, jubaji took the time out of his busy, busy schedule to share a "tale" of sorts with the forum to prove that it works against knives!



How do you like those apples, forum members?



Read it for yourself:

http://www.defend.net/deluxeforums/urban-street-combatives-r-b-m/21076-young-mans-tale.html

It may look like high school wrestling to the untrained eye, but trust me jubaji says that the force from the impact is actually multiplied if you do it in an empty parking lot at Denny's!



Man! How did the martial arts community miss the boat on this one?



Well we have it right here at Pretend.net, ladies and gentlemen.



You get this basic technique down people, and jubaji says that knives won't even be a factor for you anymore!



More after the jump.

Look! His opponent's body is perfectly straight and stiff, just like a pencil. . . .

[mellow]

.. . . . . . .

[jubaji]

To "lead" means to go first to guide and direct. If you "lead" with your head, meaning you deliberately put it out ahead of your body as the first line of penetration, you are going to get snapped down into a front headlock, shucked aside, or eat a bone-crunching crossface. The idea is to keep the head, neck, and shoulders in a vertical plane as much as possible given the dynamics of the movement and the relative position/movement of your opponent. You should also keep your hips under you as much as possible as you close, which will vary according to the kind of shot as well as the other variables mentioned above. If anything is going to 'lead' it will be the hands and the lead leg. Now' if you drop a plumb line from the shooters nose at any point along the way, will it fall flat across his chest? Given human anatomy and the dynamics of the movement in relation to the opponent's movement, probably not, but that does not mean you 'lead' with your head. This is a classic case of not understanding what you are looking at. Now, we could get into knee to shoulder position, setting up the shot, dynamic movement vs ideal form (a tough concept for you role-play types) but that should be enough to give you the basic idea IF you really want to understand.

[jubaji]

You've never shown evidence or ever described an instance when the head does NOT lead when shooting in. .

Go back and read what I explained to him about semantics, bitch.

[jubaji]

In other words, you're telling him that the question wasn't specific enough.

It wasn't, and as I said, it isn't kotf's fault that he isn't exerienced enough to understand what I was trying to tell him, but it was his fault for refusing to learn and having a pissy attitude. YOU don't even reach that level. YOU are just being a little bitch, as usual.

[Uke]

There's really no such thing if you think about it. <-- basically you're saying that there is no such thing as a basic shoot or a shoot that you could use as an example to answer DJForest's question.

There are many kinds of shots and dozens of combinations of various finishes and counters and such. <--- This is just a pathetic attempt to lead one to the conclusion that because there are many shots and combinations[most of which beginner's don't learn until later] you, with all your infinite wisdom of wrestling, could not possibly answer the question as it was asked.

In other words, you're trying to pretend that the question wasn't specific enough. Talk about semantics, O Sage of Wrasslin'!

LMAOOOOOOOO

You've never shown evidence or ever described an instance when the head does NOT lead when shooting in. In order to do such a thing it would look like the vid in post#15, except the body would be moving forward instead of just vertically. You're defending a flawed explanation instead of just elaborating about what it is that you don't think people understand.

Or could it be that you just can't put it into words?

Either way you're full of shit and it shows.

All the emoticons in the world won't change that.

[jubaji]

Then when you're questioned about whether or not you lead with the head, you say that you don't(you've been saying this for years) and most recently say that you do as little as possible, which is admitting that you do to some degree.

No, it means that kotf is trying to hide behind semantics because he knows he's wrong.

[jubaji]

Then when you're questioned about whether or not you lead with the head, you say that you don't(you've been saying this for years) and most recently say that you do as little as possible, which is admitting that you do to some degree.

No, it means that kotf is trying to hide behind semantics because he knows he's wrong.

[Uke]

I answered him very carefully. Get the shit out of your eyes and learn to read, bitch.

Wrong.

You were careful not to answer him. Get the shit out of your brain and learn to think more clearly, pooch.

The posts are still here. Your lies ain't working, jubidoo.