Greetings fellow Martial Artists

[Boxing Master]

I am Boxing Master, a new member of this forum group.

As my username states, I am a student of the striking art of Western Boxing. I am also a fan of many other martial arts from all over the world(Asia, Europe, Latin America, etc.) But my favorite style is Western Boxing. I know members of this group come from many different backgrounds, some with some of their own opinions and biases, depending on what art(s) they study, which is good, since this is an site that concerns all martial arts.

Besides Boxing, I also read and study other arts, such as Muay Thai, Kickboxing, and Jiu Jitsu. I would like to learn about other arts such as San Shou, and Free Style Wrestling. Although I favor striking styles over grappling styles, I realize that in order to be a well rounded fighter, especially in competition, it is wise to study other arts in order to become more well rounded.

As I stated before, different members of this forum group have their own biases towards their own arts, I would like to really make the case for Western Boxing's case to be considered a martial art as much as the Asian arts. I have read biased perspectives towards Boxing, especially from grappling and Muay Thai artists, who do not seem to have accurate knowledge of Boxing in its entirety, and all of its applications. Do not get me wrong, I do not want to get into a debate on which art is better, I believe that it is the man that makes the art, not the art that makes the man, but I would like to show through theory and personal application in my threads and replies that boxing is not in lack in nature against any other art, striking or grappling. I would like to learn from the others here through their stories, experiences, and background, to help me grow as a martial artist, as well as a human being as a whole.

[Tom Yum]

I am Boxing Master, a new member of this forum group.

I would like to really make the case for Western Boxing's case to be considered a martial art as much as the Asian arts. I have read biased perspectives towards Boxing, especially from grappling and Muay Thai artists, who do not seem to have accurate knowledge of Boxing in its entirety, and all of its applications. Do not get me wrong, I do not want to get into a debate on which art is better, I believe that it is the man that makes the art, not the art that makes the man, but I would like to show through theory and personal application in my threads and replies that boxing is not in lack in nature against any other art, striking or grappling. I would like to learn from the others here through their stories, experiences, and background, to help me grow as a martial artist, as well as a human being as a whole.

Welcome to the forum boxing master!

I'm quite convinced that boxing deserves its place in the world of martial arts. Most traditional martial artists down play boxings effectiveness, while guys from the MMA/muay thai and grappling cross train in boxing to some degree.

Most modern muay thai training involves a considerable boxing component. Sometimes they set aside time to work with a boxing trainer and spar with boxers to improve their hands and overall defense.

Boxing deserves its place in the ma world, but I think it is lacking in the area of grappling. Smart fighters are smart fighters - so the individual does matter. Most recent boxing vs K-1 fights have favored the K-1 fighters who come from muay thai or kyokushin karate. Why? I really don't know?? There are other times though that boxers have beat MAists.

Cyril Abidi, a middle of the rank K-1 fighter Kod Francois Botha. Botha has both size and experience on the younger Abidi, but Abidi was able to wear down Botha's legs (just like how boxers like to wear down their opponents body). When Botha's hand dropped for a second, Abidi took it upstairs with a thai kick and Botha crashed.

In the 1950's "Judo" Gene Labell (a middle weight judoka) fought Milo Savage a pro top ranked middleweight boxer. Labell and Savage made a good fight until the 5th round, Labell sank a choke on Savage that he could not escape.

Who can forget the Belfrot vs Silva UFC fight? Belfort is a south paw boxer, BJJ fighter; Silva as you know is a muay thai/grappler. When the bell rang, Belfort literally mowed Silva with about 9 straight punches - all with great, traditional boxing form and proceeded to hammer Silva on the ground. End of fight!

Also many K-1 fights are determined by which guy is the better boxer - not who is a boxer per say, but who has better hands and defense.

I've trained with boxers of different levels and experiences and my impression is that they are generally tougher and more realistic fighters. IMO Boxers are less likely to have false confidence and a better grasp of their skills. If a guy chases a boxer with a baseball bat, he will put his wind sprints into application whearas some guy with a black belt who has practiced double handed blocks 1,000 times in a kata might try to stand and trade

[Boxing Master]

Welcome to the forum boxing master!

I'm quite convinced that boxing deserves its place in the world of martial arts. Most traditional martial artists down play boxings effectiveness, while guys from the MMA/muay thai and grappling cross train in boxing to some degree.

Most modern muay thai training involves a considerable boxing component. Sometimes they set aside time to work with a boxing trainer and spar with boxers to improve their hands and overall defense.

Boxing deserves its place in the ma world, but I think it is lacking in the area of grappling. Smart fighters are smart fighters - so the individual does matter. Most recent boxing vs K-1 fights have favored the K-1 fighters who come from muay thai or kyokushin karate. Why? I really don't know?? There are other times though that boxers have beat MAists.

Cyril Abidi, a middle of the rank K-1 fighter Kod Francois Botha. Botha has both size and experience on the younger Abidi, but Abidi was able to wear down Botha's legs (just like how boxers like to wear down their opponents body). When Botha's hand dropped for a second, Abidi took it upstairs with a thai kick and Botha crashed.

In the 1950's "Judo" Gene Labell (a middle weight judoka) fought Milo Savage a pro top ranked middleweight boxer. Labell and Savage made a good fight until the 5th round, Labell sank a choke on Savage that he could not escape.

Who can forget the Belfrot vs Silva UFC fight? Belfort is a south paw boxer, BJJ fighter; Silva as you know is a muay thai/grappler. When the bell rang, Belfort literally mowed Silva with about 9 straight punches - all with great, traditional boxing form and proceeded to hammer Silva on the ground. End of fight!

Also many K-1 fights are determined by which guy is the better boxer - not who is a boxer per say, but who has better hands and defense.

I've trained with boxers of different levels and experiences and my impression is that they are generally tougher and more realistic fighters. IMO Boxers are less likely to have false confidence and a better grasp of their skills. If a guy chases a boxer with a baseball bat, he will put his wind sprints into application whearas some guy with a black belt who has practiced double handed blocks 1,000 times in a kata might try to stand and trade

Thank You for your response and exceptional insight.

[Tom Yum]

Thank You for your response and exceptional insight.

Cool, tell us about your boxing training, where you're at and why you like boxing. This thread should be moved to the Boxing forum.