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    Has anyone any good stories about having used chokes or strangles outside of the training school?
    Mine is that I was at a freinds house and he had a Great Dane
    tied up outside. Someone let his German Shepard out accidently and these two dogs started fighting. I got hold of the Great Dane by the tail and started to pull them apart but they had locked onto each others heads. Having taken up Judo at the time I used a barearm choke hold on the Great Dane and he went out in about two seconds. But the German Shepard was still going at it and had the Dane by the eye kinda so I told my freind to choke him. He tried but didn't know how so all he was doing was strangleing it to no avail. So I used the Hadaka jime or barearm choke on the Shepard and he went out in about two seconds also. I carried him in the house and he woke up while I was carrying him and he was still fighting. I dropped him pretty quick
    let me tell you.
    So the moral of this story is chokes work good on dogs if applied correctly, the only problem is you have to get your head right next to theirs.I suppose that you could use their collar also to choke them. Never underestimate the power they have in their jaws, but if you can"get their back" you can dispach them with ease if needed if done correctly.

  • #2
    ....or the german shepard could squirm out and bite your face off
    ... or the great dane could bite off your arm, then bite your face off
    ... Go try to fight a 60lb gamebreed pitbull, then you shall see the light on your way to heaven :-)

    Seriously though, dogs are wiggly little things. They have alot more quickness than most people. I understand that you wanted to stop the fight, but I wouldn't try to choke out a fighting pissed off German Shepard and there is no way that I would get anywhere near a fighting, pissed off great dane.

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    • #3
      Oh, I didn't talk about my choke experiance did I? Well I was in weight training class in highschool and this dumb football (american) player was pissed at me and he tried to tackle me up against the wall. He was punching my hip bone, lol, like I said, he was dumb, but anyways, I slid in my right arm around his throat, felt the adams apple, reached up and grabbed his shirt with both hands and watched as his ear turned purple. Then I let go as he fell back, KTFO, and stood there as the coach asked me WTF I did. LOL! Noone really messed with me after that. The choke was basically a standing guillotine using his T-shirt to hold and my left forearm pushing his throat down on my right arm. It was quite a feeling of acomplishment.

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      • #4
        The dogs wern't attacking me it just happened that i was in position. Did you mean the Guillatine wrestling hold? Or was it a improvised strangle.The one where they shoot for your legs and you get the neck kind of in a position to lift them ?Did you attack the veins or the windpipe?

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        • #5
          Hey ran in like a football tackle and i was pushed into the wall. I don't even think my feet were on the ground come the think of it. He was alot bigger than me and pushed his weight up against me, pinning me to the wall and he was punching me in my hip bone. It was sort of an improvised bllod choke. He could still breathe and when he stopped punching me and tried to get my arms off of him I noticed that his ear was purple (indicating that blood could neither enter or ext his head) and about 2 seconds after that I let go and he just fell straight back knocked out. I almost got in serious trouble but everyone said it was self-defense.
          To get a better understanding of what I did;

          Hold right arm in front of you, elbow at a 90* angle, wrist facing your sternum. His neck was in the crook of my right arm.

          Now with your right hand grab your shirt right below your left shoulder. This forms a triangle around his neck using your right forearm, your chest and your right bicep as the planes.

          Rest your left forearm, right above the crook of your left arm, against the back of your right hand.

          Grab your shirt under the right shoulder with your left hand.

          Now push the left arm down against the back of your opponents neck. This will either cause a blood choke or a wind choke. I got lucky and got a blood choke.

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          • #6
            I remember once choking the chicken. It takes a lot of skill to choke the chicken...no really it does take a lot of skill because some chickens are pretty fast and they bite and scratch and stuff.

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            • #7
              You should submit or tap out when choked a little earlier and then you wouldn't suffer so much daim bramage.

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              • #8
                aackackack.............

                Most people don't realize how brutally powerful some of the chokes are when applied correctly.I don't even mean the leg (triangle) chokes, just the arm type. Although powerful I don't find the leg chokes( triangle) especialy effective just uncomfortable.But the leg chokes are a good opportunity for an arm-bar and good for control,some people with very strong legs can effect them better then others.

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                • #9
                  I have long thin arms and long legs. It's kind of a double-edged sword because I get armbarred easier (tho I am getting better) than most short-armed people. I have almost choked out a guy with my triangle when I was just showing him how to apply it and I wasn't even trying hard. My legs are long allowing me to get the choke in deeper and still be able to grab my ankle and pull his/her head down. I'm finding it hard to set up for the triangle while sparring though. I will totally agree that arm chokes can be devastating if applied correctly but it can be hard to pull off.

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                  • #10
                    I remember once choking the chicken

                    Once???? ONCE????


                    HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

                    Who you kiddin'?

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by adacas
                      I remember once choking the chicken. It takes a lot of skill to choke the chicken...no really it does take a lot of skill because some chickens are pretty fast and they bite and scratch and stuff.
                      Did it tap out?

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Madchat18
                        I have long thin arms and long legs. It's kind of a double-edged sword because I get armbarred easier (tho I am getting better) than most short-armed people. I have almost choked out a guy with my triangle when I was just showing him how to apply it and I wasn't even trying hard. My legs are long allowing me to get the choke in deeper and still be able to grab my ankle and pull his/her head down. I'm finding it hard to set up for the triangle while sparring though. I will totally agree that arm chokes can be devastating if applied correctly but it can be hard to pull off.
                        You can effect that triangle from differant angles,try facing backwards or from the back or upside down all you have to do is step in but thats in Judo or against untrained guys on the street,I don't know about getting leglocked from there.That also I think possibly is a way to control two assailants on the ground in a grappling /combat situation .If you had to, triangle one guy and punish the other with your hands.

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