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    anyone been keeping up with whats been going down over there? bad times. bad times. for everyone it seems. we are knee deep in bs over there. they say we are gonna be in iraq for at least 10 years or so.

    more us troops dying each day as the violence just keeps escalating. stuck in a guerilla war that is intesifying each day because of anti american sentiment. more vets coming home disfigured and traumatized. how u think this is gonna affect our society? theres a guy in ju jitsu i know who was a marine and has lost 12 buddies already cause they were in iraq. daily life in iraq includes car bombs, assinations, kidnappings, gunbattles,sniper fire, downed aircraft, rpg attacks, shelling, air raids, marine assaults, armed robbery, suiciding bombings, drug tafficking, smuggling, slave trade, land mines, and even pornography and sexual abuse. and this after combat has been declared over? how could that be when its getting worse everyday.its just getting worse and worse and more and more muslims hate america and want to attack us more then before. im sure that terrorists want to pull another 9/11 again more than ever. we dont really have any options now but to stay in iraq for years to come and more us troops are going to die. its a shitty situation for all. the worst part about it is that while this goes on there are a select group of people who are profiting financially from this, like our president. the 1st thing he did in this war was the secure the oil fields. not the people, but the oil fields. blatantly. wtf. then cheneys oil company that goes over to iraq to make money is accused of overcharging iraqis 60 million in oil. thats what all these companies do. iraq is a big invenstment. this isnt right at all. not for iraqis and not for all the people my age who die so these rich, hardcore christian, republican, oldschool, narrowminded company holders can cash in and lie to people. most of the terrorists in iraq are foreign. they arent iraqis, thats why they dont care if they kill iraqis in the process. they are just there to create havok and fight americans. the usa doesnt have enough troops to secure all iraqs borders, so more and more foreig n fighters with better and bigger weapons keep pouring in. this situation isnt going anywere good. bush pushed us into war unprepared and pretty quick. its a fact that many soliders over there lack proper equipment and their family members end up having to buy and send em stuff they shoulda had. thats rediculous. may us troops are also being thrown in military jails for refusing orders because iraq is so dangerous. i mean, if u were a soldier, would u want to be escorting a fuel tanker through bagdad to another base? **** no.

    if u go to www.ogrish. com there are alot of videos and photos from events in iraq. they even have a an iraq "beheading video archive" .this war is by far the most photographed and covered war ever so far, but usa tv edits everything and dont let people really know whats going on. and on top of that they are bombarded by nonstop propoganda everywere they turn. not only that, but even terrorists and iraqis use the interenet and modern technology to document the war, so u see alotta stuff from the other side. its nothing like they show on the tv here.

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  • #2
    what's your point?

    Many of the same things were said after world war 2. Seems that turned out fairly well in the end

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    • #3
      Originally posted by eXcessiveForce
      what's your point?

      Many of the same things were said after world war 2. Seems that turned out fairly well in the end
      if u consider the deaths of millions of people all over the world, and utter destruction around the globe ok, then yeah it did turn out pretty well in the end.

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      • #4
        could have been worse, the U.S. could have decided not to get involved and then germany really would have taken over the entire world.

        I prefer speaking english to german.

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        • #5
          u know what, the bush administration is doing the same shit that hitler did. invading other countries, occupating their people, setting up what how he thinks they should live. and in addition trying to take their resources and make them buy our goods and services with money that we lent them(so they can owe us too), against their wills. wasnt hilter extremely christian too like bush is? i saw a picture of one of our popes shaking hands with hilter and they were both undressing eachother with their eyes. bush gets on tv telling us he was sent by god to kill terrorists ? wtf. thats pretty crazy right there. thats the same shit dictators and muslim extremeists say. they are doing it in the name of god. he could be hearing voices in his head for all we know, all the coke and drinking bush used to prob messed him up. thats why he cant deliver speaches for shit. not only that, but isnt that wrong on a religious level too because he is claiming to be a representative of god, sent from above but he doesnt represent anything good. does this bother anyone else or just me ?

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          • #6
            your information on history is faulty.

            I don't have a pope but I know that a pope did meet this hitler at one time

            Realize that most of the iraq populous is happy that we removed saddam that doesn't mean that they are not frustrated that they have yet to make their country secure.

            We have been in iraq a long time now, over 10 years and we will be there for awhile longer but if we can secure iraq we will have dramatically changed the middle east.

            Freedom spreads when it is allowed to.

            You may want to do some research on political science before making up your mind about what's going on. It sounds like you are rather uninformed.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by EmptyneSs
              u know what, the bush administration is doing the same shit that hitler did.


              Oh wow, another hysterical liberal. Haven't seen one of those in a few seconds.......










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              • #8
                hey another faggot with nothing to say. havent seen one of those since jumanjis last post

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                • #9
                  omae wa aho ka?

                  Originally posted by EmptyneSs
                  hey another faggot with nothing to say. havent seen one of those since jumanjis last post

                  Oh, that is just so...so...fascist that it makes me want to cry!

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by EmptyneSs
                    occupating their people.... does this bother anyone else or just me ?
                    Yes, I am compfused but not dispairded about the occupating of Iraq.....JJ

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by jubaji
                      Oh wow, another hysterical liberal. Haven't seen one of those in a few seconds.......










                      I'm sorry, but that was funny
                      I actually laughed out loud when I read that.


                      Back to the point.
                      Comparing hitler to bush is like comparing...well...two opposites.
                      Are we killing multiple select groups of people by mass aciding? Are we putting people in death camps and ghettos?
                      I don't think so. And the best part of this is, most Iraqi's want us to help. Sure, the media always shows some who hate us. But that's just how it is. You don't understand the mindset of these people. Every leader they've had up untill now has lied to them. Every single one. They've killed their loved ones without remorse, and have done so openly. Hell, Saddam hussien had all his daughters husbands killed just because he didn't like them.
                      So of course some people are going to be hessistant to accept someone who wants to come in and help.

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