World's religious situation

[Garland]

Is **** with faith, or just hope on your part Garland?

It's more like Goddess worship.

[kingoftheforest]

Ok

OK I think I see what you are saying Tant.

The current face of religion as we see it is actually the work of the devil.
So you can interrpret that as God or at least yours (just to clarify) said any kind of organized religion is against his instructions?

[Tant01]

OK I think I see what you are saying Tant.

The current face of religion as we see it is actually the work of the devil.
So you can interrpret that as God or at least yours (just to clarify) said any kind of organized religion is against his instructions?

No! True worshipers worship in spirit and TRUTH! John 4:23,24 HIS word is truth! John 17:17

The narrow path as it were. Few are on it. The question is who are the ones DOING god's will? They are organized. They are declaring God's name for a witness to all the nations. Ex. 9:16

Proverbs 14:25...

[Dim Wit Moc]

Christians are not God and Christians do not dictate the laws of the universe. Christians can only be faithful and loyal to their Master. The Bible teaches that there is only one way to God, and that is through Jesus Christ.

Personally, I like the "many paths to God" philosophy, but I am not in charge, the Uncaused Cause is. If he says that there is a narrow path to life and a broad path to destruction, then I must faithfully proclaim that.

If someone wants to persecute me or throw me to the lions, God isn't going to change His mind about the path to eternal life. No matter how mad someone is at me, God doesn't change. Truth be told, the person can criticize me to my face. I'm accessable to attack, but God isn't.

True Christians are willing to take the remarks and ridicule because they care where others spend eternity. They want people to walk the narrow path to heaven because they love their brother as themselves.

Think of the times you have treated someone who doesn't care about you, nicely, and those who really care with ridicule.

When JWs or LDS come to my door, I am always polite to them, because they care about me. I am secure in my faith, and am not threatened by them. They care and are human beings and deserve to be treated with respect.

By the way, I feel all religions have good teachings to offer as far as living life goes. But Jesus Christ is the door to heaven. Pure religion is love and helping others with their needs without thought of personal gain.

[Tom Yum]

Nicely done!

[GQchris]

yeah, awesome Dim

[Tant01]

With all due respect?

True Christians ....want people to walk the narrow path ....

......
By the way, I feel all religions have good teachings to offer as far as living life goes. But Jesus Christ is the door to heaven. Pure religion is love and helping others with their needs without thought of personal gain.

I put this question out to you (all)

Who is your God?

What is His name? Ps.83:18 Ex. 6:2,3 Isa 12:2 and 26:4 KJV

Jesus himself made that name known to his followers John 17:6, 26

It would seem to be a most fundamental thing to know if you claim to be a "true" christian...A christian is a follower of Jesus Christ.

And yet ??? Who today is known for teaching others this most fundamental Bible truth?

I do not care to debate or intend to offend anyone, I am nothing but a humble student...Simple things that we should ALL easily agree on can become contentions for debate and will prove that we are not of the same faith... May peace be with you!




Please keep in mind that the most Holy Name of God appears more than 6,000 times in the scriptures (old and new testaments) and that it is translated as LORD, God or the LORD in most versions... Who is served by eradicating His name from this book?

The tradition of substituting capital letters for the divine name came from the Jewish tradition of substituting ADONI for the divine name because they believed it to be too sacred to be spoken out loud. Didn't Jesus condemn the Jewish religious leaders because of their traditions?

Adonijah "My Lord is Jehovah".
May His name be sanctified

[BoarSpear]

Man you guys cant agree on anything I'm glad nothing important ever gets based on/ happens because of religion since its seems only the radicals have large flocks.

[Tant01]

Food for thought. Man can not live on bread alone....

[BoarSpear]

Food for thought. Man can not live on bread alone....

yeah but jesus aint the only one capable of producing a little wine at a party


wine sheesh not even the good stuff

[treelizard]

The tradition of substituting capital letters for the divine name came from the Jewish tradition of substituting ADONI for the divine name because they believed it to be too sacred to be spoken out loud. Didn't Jesus condemn the Jewish religious leaders because of their traditions?

That's a ridiculous over-simplification.

[kingoftheforest]

????

I still wanna know why the hell you guys can't agree that according to each other (Muslim and Christians) you are all gonna burn in hell?

So why do we have to have Crusades where Millions of people die or continued terrorist bombings? If everybody so goddamned right then stop cause your all going to each others Hell.


If so many peple are "true" christians and have "faith" then oust your leaders that are evil or people who pretend to lead. Get rid of them in the name of your true god and clean up his name.

If people are willing to be duped for the wrong reasons and run out killing infidels.....then why don't the true believers straighted all these people out and send them after the devil's men????

Is it easier to sit back and say I'm a christian I do the right thing...and let your god's name be drug through the mud and ruined. Comfort is a terrible drug for people (I myself fall victim to it too) but if there are so many of the "true" and "faithful" and you love your god so much fix his shit cause he aint doing it. Somebody do something about the people molesting little boys. And the people leading you astray.

The bible says those that lead my people astray will be punished. Well if you aren't stopping this doesn't mean your helping? If that maybe hinges on eternal damnation maybe you ought to do something about it???

And god has a plan or god works through people in mysterious ways or god will send a sign...are all not gonna be acceptable answers because I have less faith in "God" ..but apparently only by a small margin...than most christians.

[kingoftheforest]

By the way, I feel all religions have good teachings to offer as far as living life goes.

I will agree to this. But then again when you wanna control people you have to have rules to live by.

But Jesus Christ is the door to heaven. Pure religion is love and helping others with their needs without thought of personal gain.

Funny I see Pat Robertson drives nice cars wears nice suits and has lotsa money. And this guy is the face of Chritian religion on T.V. weather you agree or not. Just like Bush is president and that fact burns my ass.

Also Catholic churches always have shitloads of loot. And the preacher at my wife's church drives a new car (a toyota Celica)

If thats not about personal gain I'm in the wrong business cause I'm broke ass heel.

[Tant01]

Carry on the tradition...

That's a ridiculous over-simplification.

Perhaps.... But then I'm a simple person. In my copy of the popular KJV (King James Version) there is one paragraph that explains the so called Tetragramation. The four letters used to represent the divine name, customarily vocalized "Yahweh". In reading aloud, the Jews often substituted Adonai ("Lord") since the name of Yayweh was considered too sacred for utterance. The King James Version uses LORD (with all letters capitalized) as the English equivalent.


See; Psalms 79:6, Jeremiah 10:25

[treelizard]

I was talking about you saying

Didn't Jesus condemn the Jewish religious leaders because of their traditions?

Somehow I thought it was more about the intent behind those traditions... or whether there was any. Letter of the law versus spirit of the law. If you really think that Jesus was condemming the Jewish people for practicing traditions or for treating the name of G-d with respect, you might want to delve a little deeper...

The four letters used to represent the divine name, customarily vocalized "Yahweh". In reading aloud, the Jews often substituted Adonai ("Lord") since the name of Yayweh was considered too sacred for utterance.

Yeah. I grew up studying this. There is nothing in the Torah prohibiting a person from pronouncing the name of God. And there are MANY names of God used in Judaism. Jews customarily don't pronounce any of God's names except in prayer for a variety of reasons. Part of this is because in Judaism, a name conveys the essence of that which is being named, the history, nature and reputation of it. God's name is to be treated with respect and reverence.