mujahahideen know some martial arts?

[DickHardman]

look at this random video of some jihadis hanging out. one of them displays some skills with a staff. could it be these guys train in martial arts as well?

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=773a3580d6

[BoarSpear]

look at this random video of some jihadis hanging out. one of them displays some skills with a staff. could it be these guys train in martial arts as well?

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=773a3580d6

You are kidding right? Gee I wonder types of arts they might practice...

[DickHardman]

You are kidding right? Gee I wonder types of arts they might practice...

???? what you trying to say??? i dont need 2 or 3 pages of condescending remarks before you get to what you are really trying to say. please just spare us and go ahead and say whatever it is you want to say.

btw, you happen to know what system that staffwork was from?

[BoarSpear]

???? what you trying to say??? i dont need 2 or 3 pages of condescending remarks before you get to what you are really trying to say. please just spare us and go ahead and say whatever it is you want to say.

btw, you happen to know what system that staffwork was from?

2 0r 3 pages!! I reserve that type of taunting for the major idiots.

I'm curious why you're surprised to find Martial arts among Warriors of a predominately Muslim culture.

As far as identifying the weapon attack, looks can be deceiving especially in such a short clip but its probably a Gatka derivative.

[DickHardman]

2 0r 3 pages!! I reserve that type of taunting for the major idiots.

I'm curious why you're surprised to find Martial arts among Warriors of a predominately Muslim culture.

As far as identifying the weapon attack, looks can be deceiving especially in such a short clip but its probably a Gatka derivative.

well, do pardon my ignorance, but i figured that many of these guys come from very turbulent countries were war is very common. so i just figured a person coming from that background would not have much opportunity to train in a martial art and would spend most of his time learning to use firearms. but who knows who these people are and were they exactly come from.

and what is Gatka? were does it originate from?

btw, this clip does make me quite sad. just shows how we are all really the same, we are all human beings. its a shame that people have to kill each other over bs.

[BoarSpear]

well, do pardon my ignorance, but i figured that many of these guys come from very turbulent countries were war is very common. so i just figured a person coming from that background would not have much opportunity to train in a martial art and would spend most of his time learning to use firearms. but who knows who these people are and were they exactly come from.

and what is Gatka? were does it originate from?

btw, this clip does make me quite sad. just shows how we are all really the same, we are all human beings. its a shame that people have to kill each other over bs.

No offense intended dude but how old are you? I ask because people who come from turbulent cultures torn by war often have Martial systems...firearms are sorta new to the game.

Gatka is an Indian art, but one would do well to realize just which countries around the world are known for their martial arts systems that have extensive Muslim populations.

Even countries without the majority of it's people being Muslim have major Muslim influences in their native arts...You might be surprised how many of the CMA's were heavily influenced by their contributions.

[DickHardman]

Even countries without the majority of it's people being Muslim have major Muslim influences in their native arts...You might be surprised how many of the CMA's were heavily influenced by their contributions.

would you say this was due to the muslim armies put together by muhammad? would you say muhammad was a large influence in martial arts? he was a warrior after all.

[BoarSpear]

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[DickHardman]

No, I'd say it was due to the Muslims involved in the arts in the cultures where they were practiced. dude I'm just trying to grasp where you're coming from, how old are you? I'm curious, Can you tell the MAJOR art that might be a concern to the US armed forces TODAY? I'll give you a hint, it's from a predominately Muslim nation.

Here's a thread with a Gatka vid.

http://www.defend.net/deluxeforums/s...ighlight=Gatka

im 23. just trying to learn all i can.

and what art is our armed forces concerned about? id say a weapons art of some kind.

[BoarSpear]

im 23. just trying to learn all i can.

Thank you, it can help to have a reference, I'm a grey haired Grandad.

Check out this thread...it gets interesting, at least on THIS subject about page four, post #60 when the Trainer for Silat Mubai Shows up in my thread...I'd say he proved my assessment correct before leaving.

http://www.defend.net/deluxeforums/showthread.php?t=16711&highlight=Gatka

[DickHardman]

thats awesome that silat mubai is based on imam ali. heres what the wikipidia says....


"The heart of all true MFA originated with the teachings of Commander Ali Ibn Abu Talib, the cousin of the Prophet Muhamad, who was the founder of the Islamic faith. Commander Ali spent his entire life in the warrior ranks and was known by friends as pious and humble, and by enemies as one of the most formidable warriors in all of Arabia. As a champion of the poor and protector of the house of the Prophet, Ali grew in stature until he became the fourth Caliph (political leader) to succeed the Prophet and the first Imam (religious leader) in a line of 12 after the Prophet. Ali as a man was reputed in his piety and devotion to God, and as a warrior, most of all a duelist, he was unmatched. Contrary to what most people believe, the great Samurai Miyamoto Musashi was not the duelist who survived the most matches with his record of 50 plus wins. Commander Ali fought in his first official battle, the battle of Badr, and killed 24 men in single combats. Combined duels in his life total over 200, which have been recorded and dozens with detailed recordings of the exact events that took place and the adversaries position and family background. It can be said, that Ali as a warrior is responsible for the creation of moral principles of combat that are found within the Muslim Fighting Arts. It is Ali who a Murid (student) can look to in order to understand the true meaning of the word "Warrior".

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silat_Mubai

[BoarSpear]

thats awesome that silat mubai is based on imam ali. heres what the wikipidia says....


"The heart of all true MFA originated with the teachings of Commander Ali Ibn Abu Talib, the cousin of the Prophet Muhamad, who was the founder of the Islamic faith. Commander Ali spent his entire life in the warrior ranks and was known by friends as pious and humble, and by enemies as one of the most formidable warriors in all of Arabia. As a champion of the poor and protector of the house of the Prophet, Ali grew in stature until he became the fourth Caliph (political leader) to succeed the Prophet and the first Imam (religious leader) in a line of 12 after the Prophet. Ali as a man was reputed in his piety and devotion to God, and as a warrior, most of all a duelist, he was unmatched. Contrary to what most people believe, the great Samurai Miyamoto Musashi was not the duelist who survived the most matches with his record of 50 plus wins. Commander Ali fought in his first official battle, the battle of Badr, and killed 24 men in single combats. Combined duels in his life total over 200, which have been recorded and dozens with detailed recordings of the exact events that took place and the adversaries position and family background. It can be said, that Ali as a warrior is responsible for the creation of moral principles of combat that are found within the Muslim Fighting Arts. It is Ali who a Murid (student) can look to in order to understand the true meaning of the word "Warrior".


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silat_Mubai

Did you read the thread?

[DickHardman]

Did you read the thread?

yeah it was cool, too bad we never heard back from that guy and it seems as if his website is no longer working. i watched some clips though on youtube.

[DickHardman]

hey boar, i found this other video of some jihadis training, and it shows them practicing hand to hand combat skills among other things. check it out. can you recognize any systems in this video?

[YOUTUBE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mD0RZaoC7x8&mode=related&search=[/YOUTUBE]

[Garland]

hey boar, i found this other video of some jihadis training

So did I...check it out, dudes.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_MdPFDuTZNk&feature=PlayList&p=A2C16AB4A8EA36C1&index=192