Dick Cheney in ’94 – “Invading Bagdad would make a quagmire” !!

[finalfrontier]

Well…well…well, here’s something for all the pro-war goons to contemplate, (if your capable).

http://www.funnyblock.com/video/Dick_Cheney_94_Invading_Baghdad_Would_Create_Quagmire.html

[DickHardman]

so what this video proves is that our soldiers have intentionally been put into an unwinnable situation with the full knowledge and support of those who lead our country. all the problems our military has encountered in iraq was stated in 94 by cheney. the question is why?? why did we fallow a flawed strategy that was known to have been flawed 9 years before we took over iraq?? doesnt this anger any of you people or do you guys just pretend like its not really happening like you some of you have done when other evidence has come to light?

[Tom Yum]

Well…well…well, here’s something for all the pro-war goons to contemplate, (if your capable).

http://www.funnyblock.com/video/Dick..._Quagmire.html

Can't view the video? Is there an original source?

[Tom Yum]

And here is my prediction for the future: If they ever discover life on any body in our solar system (Europa, titan, mars, ect..) the right wing radio hosts will say it is not true, and "bad science". They will find a scientist who will say that the samples were contaminated with earth based microbes. My prediction is they will do and say anything to squash the truth. believe me, there are enough people who don't want any evidence of life on other worlds found.

Science always gets a bad rap, even from its own. Wasn't it Lord Kelvin, the renowned mathematician and physicist who said "Heavier than air flying machines are impossible!".

Science seems to have its harshest critics inside its own circles; the loudest critics are usually outside the field of science, that's why they've got to be so loud, right?

You've got to be extra crusty to handle the nay sayers. It would be different if they got paid per critique, but they do it for free lol.

And Rush Limbaugh does not even have to do or say anything to contest the evidence. He just needs to laugh in that sarcastic way that he does, mention Hilary Clinton's name a few times, talk about football and his captive audience will nod thier heads in agreement. Hang the facts! It's all spin.

I'll take to some of Mr.Limbaugh's political ideas - some of which are noteworthy and good, but the man isn't a scientist, meterologist, geologist etc.

Everone is entitled to an opinion, no matter how different or original that opinion seems. Take a man whose 5'11" and 178 lbs. Some people might call him short and skinny, some might call him tall and fat, others might call him stalky and yet others might call him puny.

[DickHardman]

Can't view the video? Is there an original source?

[YOUTUBE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6BEsZMvrq-I[/YOUTUBE]

[DickHardman]

im still wondering why there is no outrage over this. people accuse me of terrorism simply for posting a couple liveleak videos, yet nobody cares when its revealed that our troops have been intentionally put into an unwinable situation that has caused much death and destruction. i guess thats just how it goes.

[Toudiyama[NL]]

There wasn't any sex involved so th majority of the US will not be outraged they have been lied to

For those who still think the invasion of Iraq was legit, I ask you why?
Because you got rid of a Dictator? Would be the first time, in the past the US has been suporting a number of dictators, why all of a sudden this shift? To spread democracy....how about when the people would vote for a communist regime?(or a theocracy) Would the states allow them (after all it is the people choosing)

[Tom Yum]

Look, it was just to kick ass. ANY ass. Did not matter. Someone had to answer for 9-11. Oh, I know there are the "fight them there so we don't fight them here" crowd, but how serious are they really about that?.

Despite unequivocal media coverage, the war in Afghanistan began in October 2001; the war in Iraq began in March 2003. Why the Iraq war? There's more to it than any of us will know...

Any number of terrorists can walk right across our border anytime they want, petition a name change to something hispanic sounding, and they are in business!

If you are serious about protecting this country, you shut down the border for good. Build a 700 mile fence manned with armed sentries, dogs, heat seaking weapons and aircraft patrols, and above all, you deny any more student visas to anyone of middle eastern descent, ages 18 to 50. Period! Especially if they have bulging eyes!! Racist? You bet. Who cares. I don't want my parents blown up simply for going to work.

I believe a wall is under construction. The Army Corps of Engineers is no longer handling the construction - now laid in the hands of the Border Patrol, more than likely a set back.

USMC is down there, plus some newly created special police response teams. Filling in the gaps are a few additional non-government related groups interested in keeping our borders safe (Minutemen?).

There is a right way and a wrong way to handle this thing, and I am not "soft on terrorism" for not wanting to go to Iraq. I would personally shoot a terrorist if I caught one. A terrorist, NOT an insurgent because they are the same thing only in the minds of the extreme right wing.

I always go back to the Tim McVeigh argument: If a few Al-queda were in Iraq, that does not make it the main stronghold. Any more then since Tim McVeigh was an american, america itself is harboring terrorists. We executed Tim McVeigh. What do you think Sadamm Hussein did to any terrorist that he caught? Woodchipper. Remember, he never wanted any competition.

There's more to the Iraq war than we'll be able to appreciate. We don't view the same intelligence reports that the President gets too.

[DickHardman]

going to iraq has caused the death of so many people, and its destroyed so many families, literally and figuratively.

its increased terrorism, incited fanaticism, made us more enemies at home and abroad, created/inspired other insurgencies around the world, hurt the relationships we have with our allies, lowered our standing in the world, cost us tons of money, and its only getting worse.

how has going to iraq benefited us americans??

[Tom Yum]

Tom, if the president had anything, with his low approval rating he would release it. Definitive proof would take the wind out of the sails of any doubters and leftists and liberals, and guarantee the republican party another 100 years of majority. As it is, the only reason the republicans are going to win this next election is because us democrats can't produce anyone better then Hilary, and you just got to know she ain't gonna win, no matter what!!

I'm detecting sarcasm....lol.

As it is, the next democratic president won't be until 2012. But, if this Iraq debacle was proven beyond a doubt to the american public (not the half that listens to Rush Limbaugh, of course) to be a just cause, you guys would guarantee yourself a permanent majority for a long time. Right wing radio has done far too much damage to democrats at this point, (painting us as being almost a bunch of fags for not agreeing with you) so the only thing you got against you in the american public's eye is the spectacle of another Vietnam, with all the body bags coming home. Believe me, if Bush had something that we don't know, I think it would have been said, or at least leaked out by now.

How can you be so sure?

There could be a number of reasons for the President starting the war in Iraq.

[Ahsen]

Can't view the video? Is there an original source?

here you go tom:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6109199901915310709&q=elita+one&total=6&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=0

[DickHardman]

"Foreign occupation of Iraq has created far more terrorists than it has deterred.”