footage of ufos around MIR space station

[Ghost]

but these thigns would be highly visible from earth, everyone would know about it.
the stupid music gives this away to me, again anyone can make this video, i could do this. and these do look like satellites.

[DickHardman]

I don't think you quite get it. anything they can't Identify is going to be debris or a satellite. They may not know what the piece of debris is, or which satellite it is, but nothing here looks even remotely alien.

Camera artifact, debris, satellites. Some moving at high speed which also causes camera artifact.

I don't see anything that would even give the impression that it has anything to do with aliens.

um, there are russian astronauts who spent months on mir telling you these are ufos. these guys are highly trained. they would know the difference between ufos and debris or satellites. please dont insult these men.

As for secure transmission and such, an race smart enough to travel here from outside the solar system should have the technology to break any type of secure communications we have. Additionally as with all advance populations that meet less advanced ones, they would have already taken us out by now and turned up into slave labor or something.

i dont think you get it, having secure transmissions is so people on earth wont be able to break into or intercept their feed, not to hide it from the ufos they are clearly filiming in their many missions.

[DickHardman]

but these thigns would be highly visible from earth, everyone would know about it.

are you forgetting that ufos have been filmed and seen by people all over the world???


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he stupid music gives this away to me, again anyone can make this video, i could do this. and these do look like satellites.

the music is added to the some of the clips because of the documentary it was featured in. you can find the footage without the music, they are easy to find.

[DickHardman]

Additionally as with all advance populations that meet less advanced ones, they would have already taken us out by now and turned up into slave labor or something.

maybe they are preparing an invasion.

it would explain why they have been spotted over nuclear bases, and why we have weapon systems like HAARP and SDI to repel alien invasions.

[jubaji]

Proof positive of what damage long-term excessive pot use can do to you...

[Ghost]

are you forgetting that ufos have been filmed and seen by people all over the world???


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the music is added to the some of the clips because of the documentary it was featured in. you can find the footage without the music, they are easy to find.

and so have people seen fairies ghosts and other such things.

[DickHardman]

and so have people seen fairies ghosts and other such things.

yeah, but are there hours of footage taken by the government employees of multiple nations, that show any of the things you mentioned??

[DickHardman]

Aliens may exist, but this stuff isn't proof of them. And I doubt aliens who would travel all that way to get to us, wouldn't do a bit more than fly around and subject hillbillies to anal probes.

how do you know we arent communicating and sharing information with them on a large scale?? all these space missions, who knows what they are really doing up there.

[DickHardman]

if the russians know, and the US knows, then it safe to say the chinese know, so if they are going to try and be so secure to not let anyone on earth know why did they let it get to the internet.

because other nations have come forward, who are pushing for disclosure and hoping their openness will encourage the USA gov to disclose what it knows. the military of mexico released footage of ufos taken by their surveillance planes that tracked a dozen ufos flying in formation, through clouds, etc...and they even said that the only conclusion they came to is that these were extraterrestrial in origin. here is the raw footage the mexicans released......see ghost, its a global phenomenon.

[YOUTUBE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KRvWRrf__XA[/YOUTUBE]

If even said that the one film came from soviet state tv, so if they really wanted to hide evidence of something pretty unlikely the government would have let it be put on tv

russia is more open about the subject. many russian astronauts have publicly confirmed that ufos are real, and they have seen them on their missions, and the also claim that america has known for a long time but chooses to suppress and deny the information.

[Ghost]

yeah but there are a lot of people wanting to believe in this stuff, im not convinced the videos are real videos that are dubbed over and made to sound like real people when its just the nutters editing it for their own benefit. like the 9/11 consipiracy vids, they brought in so called experts and showed so called documents. could have been anyone on the videos and the paper could be something they made. thats the problem.

Is there anything put out by a serious organization?

[DickHardman]

Is there anything put out by a serious organization?

nasa is not a serious organization? the russian space agency is not serious? the mexican air force is not a serious organization??? are you slipping into deep denial already??

[Ghost]

nasa is not a serious organization? the russian space agency is not serious? the mexican air force is not a serious organization??? are you slipping into deep denial already??

how do we know its them?

i was talking about the reporting of the video, CNN, BBC etc

something that just appears on youtube is hard to trust

[DickHardman]

how do we know its them?

i was talking about the reporting of the video, CNN, BBC etc

something that just appears on youtube is hard to trust

here u go bro, same video of the mexican air force ufos being discussed on the news. i can serve this stuff up to you in any flavor you want bro, its all real. it was released by the defense ministry of mexico.

[YOUTUBE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uDOOZ_IPb6Y[/YOUTUBE]

[DickHardman]

The only serious and scientific organization studying this subject is SETI, and they have never proven anything. And I would think they would be really motivated to fake something. The fact that they haven;t means they are legitimate, and it also means that nothing tangible has been found. They linked radio dishes searching huge sections of the night sky, listening and looking. And all they have found is natural phenomena. Pulsars, radio stars, etc.

It should be understood that UFO people are a lot like religious fanatics. They have no proof whatsoever. Just a lot of false and misleading facts. Yet they have this whole "cosmology" they have invented, with Roswell, N.M. and old grainy photos of Ed Wood's frisbee being at the center of thier "theories".

I for one am glad that there are no UFOs. Damn glad! Because if they were real, we would be pissing our pants right about now. But I am not worried. The odds are there is life out there, but whatever it is probably cannot get here, anymore then we can get there. And it will probably turn out that any civilization that can perform interstellar travel would have destroyed itself long before achieving that capability.

Take biological weapons, atomic weapons and even pollution! We can't achieve anything beyond basic space flight, and yet we could take ourselves out, no problem. About 4 tons of botulism toxin would do the trick. Wipe us all out.

So any civilization that has that high level of technology probably kills itself before ever getting here.

say what you want, the videos are there for you to watch, taken by nasa, russian space agency, and mexicos defense ministry. you can deny it to yourself all you want, it doesnt change a fact. you talk about your respect for those who serve in the armed forces, and yet you are pretty quick to call them liars when they even have video tape of the incidents. keep telling yourself they are just ed woods pies, just like mike b says he can create the same footage in his basement in his sparetime on an old 1993 apple computer

[Ghost]

even if they were ufos, why would they have to be aliens?
maybe its the chinese
part of me really doesnt care if they are alien or not. im just not that bothered until they make contact.
i think there will be intelligent life out there somewhere. in fact most scientists believe there will be many hundreds of planets supporting intelligent life. i just dont think this is it.