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  • #16
    Does Vale Tudo count as a style? A combination of Jiu-jitsu (Brazilian) Muay thai, Boxing and wrestling or some combination of Stand up (Muay thai, boxing) and grappling (Jiu-jitsu, wrestling)

    I'm assuming we're talking about best for self-defense.

    How would you define Jeet kune do?

    If you define Jeet kune do as:
    training with Aliveness (Boxing, Muay thai, Brazilian Jiu-jitsu, wrestling,
    escrima stick sparring, knife sparring,
    and knife defenses with Aliveness),
    for the long term,
    in an ego-free environment,
    and then integrating the foul tactics,
    then Jeet kune do is the best.

    If you define “best” as best for
    Law enforcement officers,
    Miliary personal,
    FBI, CIA, personnel,
    who don’t have too much time to train,
    who don’t have time to develop a base in Stand up or grappling,
    who don’t have too much time to devote to body conditioning,
    who stand the greatest chance of facing psychopaths, criminals, murderers, punks, thugs, and
    people who want to hurt them, etc

    then I’d say the training by Tony Blauer, Richard Dimitri, and Sammy Franco would be best.

    If you define “best” for
    non-hardcore martial artists, who aren’t in law enforcement, the Military, FBI, CIA, bouncers, etc
    such as housewives, doctors, lawyers, engineers, business managers, etc,
    who aren’t really into training,
    who don’t have too much time to train,
    who don’t have too much time to devote to body conditioning,

    then maybe something like Peyton Quinn’s RMCAT would be good, and I’m sure Blauer, Dimitri, and Franco have programs for these.


    If you define “best” as what works best in a No-holds-barred environment, then most of know what that is already (Brazilian jiu-jitsu, Muay thai, Wrestling, boxing) but obviously body conditioning, physique, experience, and natural and developed attributes play a huge role as well.
    Last edited by Captain USA; 05-21-2003, 05:49 PM.

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    • #17
      there isn't a best martial art. Has anyone seen JKD fight taekwondo? Let alone know what htey look like? My imagination tells me that JKD dons a goatee, a mohawk, while TKD dons a great grizzly beard, and sixty styles hair. All joking aside, I've seen practictioners of these respective arts supposedly fight.

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      • #18
        judo

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        • #19
          yeah, that list isn't really complete.

          Plus the fact that under JKD concepts, a lot of these martial arts can be combined.

          So, logically, if JKD preaches the absorbption of the best techniques from different martial arts that work best for an individual, there really can't be anything that's better... that's simple to deduce.

          So that's why I voted for JKD, but truthfully, my take is that JKD isn't really a 'style' even though it has it's own techniques collected by Bruce Lee. It's a philosophy.

          Lot of JKD practitioners will absorb Muay Thai techniques BUT a Muay Thai practitioner can't use a technique that isn't Muay Thai, because then it wouldn't be Muay Thai.... see what I'm saying?

          Because an art is an art, it is limited to itself. JKD is of all arts and of none.

          shasan.

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          • #20
            To say someone doing MT cant use a non MT technique is incorrect.

            If your talking about ring rules, providing it doesnt break the rules you can move however you want.

            You could do a back flip followed by a karate punch.

            Nothing wrong with that if thats what you want to do.

            MT is not a fixed set of rules but is a tool kit, you can add to this as you like and you are encouraged to try out new techniques.
            This is the way i have always known MT to be.
            Thats how it evolves, and as you see. I fyou look at fighters in the ring they are NOT carbon copies.

            I get your point but its no where near as strict as that.

            Providing it would fit the ring rules you can add it.

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            • #21
              I will not vote in the topic.
              Why?
              Because anyone stupid enough to put "kung fu" as a single martial art, does not deserve the vote.

              Kung Fu differentiates so dramatically, from absurd to highly practical, that I just can't vote on it.

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              • #22
                Well thank you for your informative and interesting contribution.

                You boring bastard.

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                • #23
                  You poor sad souls. You have been wasting your time with all of this bjj and jkd doodoo. The truest most purest most effective martial art out there is AIKIDO!!!!! This video clip here is more than enough to prove this...Aikido Clip
                  Not only did they outnumber him but they also had bokken. I fear the day that one of you cross paths with an aikido master.


                  aikido page

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                  • #24
                    Wow, Im convinced.

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                    • #25
                      The best way of fighting is a combination of a few simple techniques, aggression and improvisation. And dont forget to kick him in the nuts a few times (otherwise hell be able to have children and they might come and get you when your to old to fight back).

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                      • #26
                        You boring bastard.
                        I second that.

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                        • #27
                          Hey, I completely represent that statement. .Oh I mean resent .

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                          • #28
                            I’m afraid the question is too general. My opinion is, that it depends not on the art, but on the Coacher. Good boxing coacher can give you more insights in to real life street confrontation than self-centered karate teacher. I met in my life tae kwon do trainer, who had students winning boxing tournaments, and seen hand-to-hand combat instructors, who couldn’t teach anyone anything. Any art is great, providing, that whoever is teaching it focused more on getting his students ready to fight than on fulfilling his ego and urge to teach

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                            • #29
                              I study more of BJJ, but I also love MT. I would like to start studying that one a little more. I am starting in boxing, LOL but I find it hard to get boxing down since I am right handed but for some reason I fight south paw. Makes sense huh.

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by Toudiyama
                                I feel corny, Thai chi is the thai variant of tai chi?
                                Not to be confused with Chai Tea.

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