Most useless Martial Arts styles

[Thai Bri]

Many mainstream Karate schools train people to actually be LESS effective than if they had never trained at all.

So put that in your pipe and smoke it!

[MuayThaiFighter]

Originally posted by Thai Bri
35 what? Months?

Stop back peddling and admit youre wrong.

It is true I'm almost 35.I was born march 15/1969

I would like to think 35 is still young.I feel young anyways.

[Mr. Heel Hook]

Night of the Living Suck.


This post will never die....

[MuayThaiFighter]

Originally posted by Toudiyama[NL]
IF someone claims a MT champ can become a Karatechamp without efford, then it does matter what is more difficult

But but my point was not so much what is more difficult but that MTF stories are contradictionary


Oh and seeing that the thread is about the most useless art, it is not the most effective that counts
Apart from that it is utter nonsense to think that just because Karate is less effective than MT, it is not effective at all




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I never said anyone could become a Muay Thai champ without effort.In any art you have to train hard to become a martial arts champion,however there is a difference between a MuayThai champ and a karate champ.

MuayThai students train harder then karate students and more realisticaly therefore a Muay Thia practicioner would take less time to get good then a karate person would.

The training MuayThai fighters go through is more intense then any other art so obviously we will get tougher and better in less time then it would take for your average traditional art.

"MTF stories are contradictionary"

How so? just because you are too stupid to understand what I say doesn't make what I say contradictory.

[MuayThaiFighter]

No martial arts other then Muay Thai can make a person a champion within just 2-3 yrs. because most if not all arts lack the intense training and effectiveness of MuayThai.

Tae kwon do is a perfect example of that.In many Tae Kwon Do schools a person becomes a black belt in just 2yrs.and considered a master yet put them against someone who has been in MuayThai for only a few months and the TKD guy would lose.This makes no sense but how sad it maybe it is true.

Then you have a karate person who gets a black belt in 4-5yrs. which makes alot more sense, however despite their training of many years most if not all would also lose against a Muay Thai fighter of only 6 months to a year.This is not to say karate people don't train hard they do for what they train in but the training is not as intense as MuayThai and usually does not concentrate on full contact sparring the way MuayThai practitioners do.Alot of karate people learn drills that are not practical and often don't even know the bunkai of the drills they learn.

In most case it isn't always about how long the person has been training but how intense the training is and exactly what kind of training a school does and of course the skills taught.

The reason it makes no sense for a TKD person to get a black belt in under 4-5 yrs. is not really so much about time but because of the training it lacks in.Karate on the other hand makes sense to take 4-5yrs. due to its lack of training.

The more a style lacks in training the longer it should take to get any good.

I'm not saying just because MuayThai takes less time it is better then any art, like I said it has very little to do with time but the reason we are better is because of the hard training we do and reason for taking less time.

TKD takes less time to reach what they consider level of black belt then a Muay Thai person would consider to be at that level although we don't have belts,yet MuayThai is better so that just proves it has nothing to do with how long you have or haven't trained just on how the intensity,drills,skills of the school arel,of course having a good instructor helps.

One would expect that anyone who has more experience would be the better one just as that saying goes "practice makes perfect"which is true but if your training is not good and lacks in many ways it won't matter how long you've trained and how many times you practice it you just won't equal the results you could have had with proper training and practice.

I believe perfect practices makes perfection instead of just saying practice makes perfect.

If you have two arts both learning practical stuff and both have same intense training the one having trained longer will become better however on the other hand if you have a person from one art that teaches practicality and intense training and the other doesn't, it doesn't matter that the martial artist who has not been training properly has more experience he still won't equal that of the one with realistic training and less experience.

Most schools lack in training though therefore give MuayThai practicioners the edge and advantage of all other stand up arts.

I do know that no one style is good on its own they all need to have both stand up and grappling to be any good. I do still believe as a "SINGLE STAND UP "art though that MuayThai is the best but not the best art altogether in the world.

[Tom Yum]

MTF needs to get a date. Anyone volunteer? Cakegirl?? Asian Grrl?? Kevin Green....jk

MTF, keep on a rockin'!!

[Thai Bri]

He's got to be the least mature 35 year old I have ever conversed with. I reckon his age is nearer to 5.

[MuayThaiFighter]

Originally posted by Thai Bri
He's got to be the least mature 35 year old I have ever conversed with. I reckon his age is nearer to 5.

Oh ya and why is that so? Just because I have my own opinions that you don't happen to agree with doesn 't make me or anyone else that has their own opinion immature.Everyone has their own opinions and have gone through their own experiences.

Despite what it may seem like when I write in here I am open to learn about all arts whether I agree or not is a different story.

[Thai Bri]

Oh dear.

Baby want a drink?

[choylifutrocks]

Originally posted by MuayThaiFighter
"Someone doesn't become a champion of karate after just 2-3 yrs.of doing martial arts.

It was Einstein who once said, if you try something over and over hoping to get a different result you're crazy. I disagree. He is a smart man, but I believe a person like previously described would be STUPID, not crazy.

I told you once before what was wrong with your sentence. It didn't help, so now I will write it properly for you in order to make your point.

"Someone doesn't become a champion of Karate after studying the art of Karate for 2-3 years."

Does that help?

Martial arts is a VERY general word.

[choylifutrocks]

Originally posted by MuayThaiFighter
What would you know about my education and IQ ?

Your grammar skills demonstrate you lack of education, and your logic isn't very logical, therefore my conclusions of your IQ. Take a test and prove me wrong, I dare you :P

[Toudiyama[NL]]

So if one can become a champion very fast when doing MT, what happens after that, your level doesn't grow, you do not become any better, if you would become better, it would become harder for others to become a champion in 2-3 years
Or is champion a fixed level?

Apart from the fact that the whole statement is utter BS, You can become a porficient fighter, you can enter the ring without getting the shit kicked out of you but then this is way too long

Only reason why it takes 2-3 years to become a champ in full contact ringbased MA is because tou have to go through the ranks

In Trad arts you don't go through that, usually it is a tournament hence it is possible to become a champ in very little time
Especially in WKF karate I've seen guys who didn't have a year of karate training still become champ
The gyms they belonged too, only trained for competition, no forms, no walking up and down basics, just excersises to hone the WKF competition skills and sparring
Everything geared to the rules of the sportsgame

Talented people can always be turned into champs in a short period of intensive specialised training

[greyfox13]

Many mainstream Karate schools train people to actually be LESS effective than if they had never trained at all.

not true for me

[Thai Bri]

Thanks for clearing that up.

[osopardo]

Re: Most useless Martial Arts styles

Originally posted by MuayThaiFighter
Which martial art styles above seem useless to you?

Anything that involves wearing padded fingerless gloves, baggy satin shorts and requires any form of body modifications such as deadening the nerves of any part of one's body, such as the legs or brain.