apache chopper killing tons of people

[DickHardman]

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[darrianation]

Bring on the Thunder & Lightening! A storm of one!

[Tom Yum]

I like that tune. I think every soldier, sailor or marine should listen to that before a mission....jk

[DickHardman]

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[gregimotis]

I don't really think watching people die is a good way to amuse myself, thanks anyway though.

[DickHardman]

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[gregimotis]

You aren't watching that stuff to be reminded of anything Empty, your watching it to shout "dayum!" and have a good laugh. You are laughing at someone else's disaster while you sit comfortably on your couch and smoke a bowl.

[DickHardman]

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[darrianation]

You aren't watching that stuff to be reminded of anything Empty, your watching it to shout "dayum!" and have a good laugh. You are laughing at someone else's disaster while you sit comfortably on your couch and smoke a bowl.

I really shouldn't get into this one but who do you think these people are? They are murderers of US troops, British Troops, and innocent Iraqi women and children. These are the Bad Guys who take life even innocent life without batting an eye. Why would you mourn their death or even be concerned about them.

All the good men in the world should take a stand a hard stand against evil and not make excuses or apologize for it.

[darrianation]

I just want to add:

All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing. Col. Jeff Cooper

[gregimotis]

I really shouldn't get into this one but who do you think these people are?

It isn't a question of whether they have it coming or not, it's a question of whether a war should be used for entertainment.

I first stared thinking about this when the TV show 'Cops' was big. I watched it a few times and I got my kicks from it like everybody else, but I started thinking about what was going on in that show. Here's my take on Cops (then I'll relate it to this):

Cops pretends to be info-tainment, teaching us about police activity and the like. Perhaps it is in a way, but mostly cops is about watching a drunk fat guy in a stained t-shirt running barefoot down the street from the sheriff.

OR to put it another way, Cops is about watching a guy whose already got a screwed-up wreck of a life and laughing as (or at least being entertained as) he finally hits rock bottom.

Now I'm not saying this guy doesn't have it coming, that it isn't his fault he's in this mess. I'm saying that even though he brought it on himself and he probably deserves it, I don't need to use his wrecked life for my entertainment.


I'm sure the reader can see how this connects with war footage. I'm not making a case for or against war, I'm making a case against trivializing horror for entertainment - and low grade entertainment at that.

One of the consequences of the internet -good or bad - is our new ability to see just about anything. We can watch war footage, we can get porn, we can watch anything right now, without hardly a minute to think about it. There is no middleman to ask whether we should.
I'm not in favor of a middleman, a big brother standing around telling me what I should or should not do but I am in favor of a responsible, thoughtful citizen who considers his actions.

Just because I can watch live footage of some guy raping a 10 year old (actual video widely available last week) does not mean that I should and as a free citizen I have to make that decision myself. Further, watching something like that and then claiming I'm only doing it so I can be reminded of how evil some other people are is a damn lie.
Similarly, although perhaps not as grotesque, I don't have any need to see an Apache helicopter kill insurgents or anyone else. If I were a soldier getting training, or a journalist or even attending a lecture or preparing a paper, that would be different - then I would have a reason greater than getting my kicks. But I don't, and neither do most of us.

Watching video of people being killed for the purpose of getting a cheap thrill is a bullshit way of getting your jollies and making some specious claim about the value of 'witnessing how real the world is' is a damn lie. War is serious, our soldiers aren't fighting and dieing so somebody can sit on a couch and relieve his boredom between bong hits.



Darrianation, I hope I have made clear what I was getting at by my earlier posts - not a defense of the enemy, but rather a call to take serious things seriously and to consider one's own actions.

[Blue Wave Gym]

Let's have the enemy consider this instead of us considering anything

The Ballad of the Green Beret
By Staff Sergeant Barry Sadler and Robin Moore, Copyright 1966

Fighting soldiers from the sky
Fearless men who jump and die
Men who mean just what they say
The brave men of the Green Beret

Silver wings upon their chest
These are men, America's best
One hundred men will test today
But only three win the Green Beret

Trained to live off nature's land
Trained in combat, hand-to-hand
Men who fight by night and day
Courage peak from the Green Berets

Silver wings upon their chest
These are men, America's best
One hundred men will test today
But only three win the Green Beret

Back at home a young wife waits
Her Green Beret has met his fate
He has died for those oppressed
Leaving her his last request

Put silver wings on my son's chest
Make him one of America's best
He'll be a man they'll test one day
Have him win the Green Beret.

The Army Goes Rolling Along
The official United States Army Theme Song
Based on "The Caissons Go Rolling Along"
by Brigadier General E.L. Gruber
March along, sing our song, with the Army of the free
Count the brave, count the true, who have fought to victory
We’re the Army and proud of our name
We’re the Army and proudly proclaim

First to fight for the right,
And to build the Nation’s might,
And The Army Goes Rolling Along
Proud of all we have done,
Fighting till the battle’s won,
And the Army Goes Rolling Along.

Then it’s Hi! Hi! Hey!
The Army’s on its way.
Count off the cadence loud and strong (TWO! THREE!)
For where e’er we go,
You will always know
That The Army Goes Rolling Along.

Valley Forge, Custer’s ranks,
San Juan Hill and Patton’s tanks,
And the Army went rolling along
Minute men, from the start,
Always fighting from the heart,
And the Army keeps rolling along.

Then it’s Hi! Hi! Hey!
The Army’s on its way.
Count off the cadence loud and strong (TWO! THREE!)
For where e’er we go,
You will always know
That The Army Goes Rolling Along.
Men in rags, men who froze,
Still that Army met its foes,
And the Army went rolling along.
Faith in God, then we’re right,
And we’ll fight with all our might,
As the Army keeps rolling along.

Then it’s Hi! Hi! Hey!
The Army’s on its way.
Count off the cadence loud and strong (TWO! THREE!)
For where e’er we go,
You will always know
That The Army Goes Rolling Along.

[Blue Wave Gym]

or this

The Marines Hymn
From the Halls of Montezuma
To the shores of Tripoli
We will fight our country's battles
In the air, on land and sea.
First to fight for right and freedom
And to keep our honor clean;
We are proud to claim the title
United States Marine.

Our flag's unfurled to every breeze
From dawn to setting sun;
We have fought in every clime and place
Where we could take a gun.
In the snow of far-off Northern lands
And in sunny tropic scenes;
You will find us always on the job --
The United States Marines.

Here's health to you and to our Corps
Which we are proud to serve;
In many a strife we've fought for life
And never lost our nerve.
If the Army and the Navy
Ever look on Heaven's scenes,
They will find the streets are guarded
By United States Marines.

Anchors Aweigh
The United States Navy Theme Song
Stand, Navy, out to sea, Fight our battle cry;
We'll never change our course, So vicious foe
steer shy-y-y-y.
Roll out the TNT, Anchors Aweigh.
Sail on to victory
And sink their bones to Davy Jones, hooray!

Anchors Aweigh, my boys, Anchors Aweigh.
Farewell to college joys, we sail at break of day-ay-ay-ay.
Through our last night on shore, drink to the foam,
Until we meet once more,
Here's wishing you a happy voyage home.

[Blue Wave Gym]

or this

The United States Air Force Song:
Off we go into the wild blue yonder,
Climbing high into the sun.
Here they come, zooming to meet our thunder;
At 'em boys, give 'er the gun!
Down we dive, spouting our flame from under,
Off with one hell-of-a-roar!
We live in fame or go down in flame.
NOTHING WILL STOP THE U. S. AIR FORCE!

Semper Paratus (Always Ready)
The United States Coast Guard Theme Song
From North and South and East and West,
The Coast Guard's in the fight.
Destroying subs and landing troops,
The Axis feels our might.
For we're the first invaders,
On every fighting field.
Afloat, ashore, on men and Spars,
You'll find the Coast Guard shield.

We're always ready for the call,
We place our trust in Thee.
Through howling gale and shot and shell,
To win our victory.
"Semper Paratus" is our guide,
Our pledge, our motto, too.
We're "Always Ready," do or die!
Aye! Coast Guard, we fight for you.

From Aztec shore to Arctic zone,
To Europe and Far East.
The Flag is carried by our ships,
In times of war and peace.
And never have we struck it yet,
In spite of foe-men's might,
Who cheered our crews and cheered again,
For showing how to fight.

We're always ready for the call,
We place our trust in Thee.
Through howling gale and shot and shell,
To win our victory.
"Semper Paratus" is our guide,
Our pledge, our motto, too.
We're "Always Ready," do or die!
Aye! Coast Guard, we fight for you.

SURVEYOR and NARCISSUS,
The EAGLE and DISPATCH,
The HUDSON and the TAMPA
The names are hard to match;
From Barrow's shores to Paraguay,
Great Lakes or ocean's wave,
The Coast Guard fought through storms and winds
To punish or to save.

We're always ready for the call,
We place our trust in Thee.
Through howling gale and shot and shell,
To win our victory.
"Semper Paratus" is our guide,
Our pledge, our motto, too.
We're "Always Ready," do or die!
Aye! Coast Guard, we fight for you.

Aye, we've been "Always Ready"
To do, to fight, or die
Write glory to the shield we wear
In letters to the sky.
To sink the foe or save the maimed
Our mission and our pride
We'll carry on 'til Kingdom Come
Ideals for which we've died.

We're always ready for the call,
We place our trust in Thee.
Through howling gale and shot and shell,
To win our victory.
"Semper Paratus" is our guide,
Our pledge, our motto, too.
We're "Always Ready," do or die!
Aye! Coast Guard, we fight for you.

[Thai Bri]

nope. you got it wrong bro. im not posting these videos to make fun of whats happening to the people in them, im posting them to draw attention to whats going on in the world. i know guys like you would rather not see any of this, and rather turn on the tv and watch dancing with the stars or american idol instead, but id rather see all these fucked up videos so i will never forget them.

Thank God you're here to spread the word to Defend.Net members. George Dubbya Bush checks here regularly, and will almost certainly change US foreign policy now.

Haw haw haw!