Punching Power and Slapping Power

[Tant01]

Nice...

There was a stick fighter in Cebu (PI) that had half his face ripped off from his cheek to the back of his head (behind the ear) with a palm strike.

He later bled to death in the hospital...

Not even iron palm, just shotei tsuki.

Just when I thought I was getting my REPUTATION back in order!

Hey, thanks for spreading it around...



I know you don't answer questions but I wonder... are you the "modern day dickhead" or am I? And what is it about THIS post that inspired you to tag me?



His mame was Maligali. He had a bad reputation too.

[IronPalmArts]

After reading this funny thread, I eventually looked at the page of ironpalmarts online store: http://www.ironpalmarts.com/osCommerce1/catalog/

And what ARE they talking about, lol...
Sounds like utter bs to me, stuff like:
"No Opponent, Not Even The Devil, Will Find An Opportunity To Attack. Train Yourself Thoroughly And Then Forget About It. Throw Away Your Mind. You Will Follow The Way Without Being Aware Of It. This Is The Mystery Of The Way. Hei Ho Kaden Sho"
haha wtf?
So what do I need to buy to find the mystery of the way? I want to know because then not even the devil himself will find an opportunity to attack if I'm not mistaken. Sounds awesome hehe.

"A Master Of Strategy Does Not Kill People With His Or Her Skill. Anyone Standing In Front Of A Master Who Has Realized The Truth Will Naturally Cower As If Already Dead. Kazumi Tabata Secret Tactics"
yeah.. secraaat ehehehe.
God damn I want that "True Strategy"! What item do I need to get it? *waving money as seen on TV*

Hehe sorry ironpalm, perhaps your products are really good, but damn the things you put on that page just crack me up, so thanks for the laugh hehe.
To make it even better, I think you should use the word "secraat" instead of just plain "secret", as the former is more accepted on the Intarnaat. That would be awesome.

Regretfully I would not expect you to understand what I left on my store home page. The laugh is not on me it is actually on you. If you would have read the entire page you may have answered your own question there is no product you can buy, or words that can explain, or instructions that you can be taught. Only through self improvement can you achieve true strategy unfortunately this is something you will never accomplish.

Thanks And God Bless,

Chase Benefield

[gabbah]

Regretfully I would not expect you to understand what I left on my store home page. The laugh is not on me it is actually on you. If you would have read the entire page you may have answered your own question there is no product you can buy, or words that can explain, or instructions that you can be taught. Only through self improvement can you achieve true strategy unfortunately this is something you will never accomplish.

Thanks And God Bless,

Chase Benefield

Oh ok, I thought it was something cool. But it's just you own specific strategy in a fight then? That I will find through self improvement and hard training?
Why didn't you just say so in the first place without wrapping it in mystery? I mean that's really obvious stuff to anyone hehe.
You made it sound like it was some secrat powah I would eventually find... I'm a bit dissapointed now that it was nothing special at all. :/

Sorry for misreading your... info(?) on that page. The joke's on me.

I'm also wondering about another thing on that same page. It's about the self defense stuff.
"90 % Of The People Who Attend Martial Arts Or Self Defense Classes Will Not Be Able To Win Or Defend Themselves In A Street Fight Or As You May Call It A Real Self Defense Situation.

90% Of The People Who Teach Martial Arts Or Self Defense Teach What I Call Kiddy Karate Meaning Everything That They Teach Is Useless In A Real Self Defense Situation."
My question is, what does the above have to do with the products you sell? I'm sorry if I offend you by not understanding that, that's not my intention.

[IronPalmArts]

Its good to see what an honorable guy chase is, first he claims he was taught by shaolin monks at the temple in Ga, when its pointed out no such place exist, you start calling names and throwing insults all because you cant defend the claims you made....and guess what? There are pics and vids on here of me
See it isnt me who is the unknown quantity here its YOU IronPalmArts...you and your secret monk teachers.
So like i said before....post who your monk teachers were...where is your secret temple? HAHAHA you are so full of but go on show everyone how you respond to inquiries about the Martial arts your 22 year old master MADE UP...have you googled IronPalmArts recently? This thread is REALLY shooting to the top!!

Seeing as you just called me fat and a puss, its obvious you DONT know who i am....you seem to have me confused with your wife...

Is that better you wet nosed punk? you wanna get in a name calling contest LIAR? where is your temple LIAR? who where your secret monk teachers LIAR? Who is a fake??? BWAHAHAHAHA. gee most likely the 22 year old who invents his own Ironpalm system...yet claims he was taught by shaolin monks at the temple in Ga!!!

Face it punk, you got called on your lies...all your name calling just proves you have nothing else...quit while you can...otherwise this threads gonna come up BEFORE your website!!...youre literally ruining your own name...of course the moment you claimed non existant teachers from a non existant temple we knew you were a loser...

Oh yeah your nonsense about my defending my sales? where did you get that idea? see how many places you can find me spamming this forum trying to sell jow (or anywhere else)...go ahead....i can save you some time, there arent ANY...i have sold some packages, but they have all been since you jumped in the thread and started spouting bullshit...so thank you.

Please don not reply directly back to me because I will not be returning to this forum I am to busy and will let Mr. Smith continue his fun.

This is what I have to say to you Sir. As far as being trained by Shaolin Monks that is quiet funny Mr. Smith was just throwing gas on the fire. I am not a master and the Iron Palm instruction that are posted are not made up. Mr. Smith just posted the advance level and did not post the rest so I have edited the original and posted the other levels as well. The address 70 Sycamore St, Van Wert, Georgia is real and it is my address so please do not come here if your looking to start trouble but, if you would like to have some herbal tea and talk about the arts I would be more than happy to introduce you to my family. In your case some of comments you have posted are very disturbing to think someone would have so much hate built up and anger to try and ruin someone’s name. Below is a quote from the Bible that I would advice you and your friend read and read it well.


Enter not into the path of
the wicked, and go not in
the way of evil men,

Avoid it, pass not by it,
turn from it, and pass away

For they sleep not, except
they have done mischief; and
their sleep is taken away,
unless they cause someone
to fall

For they eat the bread
wickedness , and drink to wine
of violence. “Jesus Christ”

Thanks And God Bless

Chase Benefield

"You may doubt what I say,
but the people will always
believe in what I do." "Chase"

[eXcessiveForce]

I will confirm that Van Wert is or was a town in georgia, it was founded in 1838. it is much to small to find on most searches, it is very near rockmart, GA.

http://rockmart.georgia.gov/05/home/0,2230,9010683,00.html;jsessionid=0056A98B5A69BD56E68ED67C6DCB6894

the actual address they are giving is 70 Sycamore St, ROCKMART, Georgia. this is searchable in google.

[Tant01]

Smith, Mr. Smith...

Please don not reply directly back to me because I will not be returning to this forum I am to busy and will let Mr. Smith continue his fun.

...................... "Chase"

C'mon. Mr. "Smith"? That's real creative!


Do you meanTHISMr. Smith>>>Phil Buchanon.>>> ironpalm@ironpalmarts.com


Glad you don't live in MY neck of the woods...

Tuck your tail and run little pup.

[eXcessiveForce]

this is Mr. Smith or at least his address I believe

Buchanon, Kermit

315 Wray Rd
Buchanan, GA 30113

[gabbah]

I will confirm that Van Wert is or was a town in georgia, it was founded in 1838. it is much to small to find on most searches, it is very near rockmart, GA.

http://rockmart.georgia.gov/05/home/0,2230,9010683,00.html;jsessionid=0056A98B5A69BD56E68ED67C6DCB6894

the actual address they are giving is 70 Sycamore St, ROCKMART, Georgia. this is searchable in google.

Wow, flash earth rocks... I found it.

http://www.flashearth.com/?lat=33.987957&lon=-85.043199&z=17.7&r=0&src=2

That is as zoomed in as it gets. You can see the street and that it's Van Wert. Just zoom out slowly, it's awesome. Then you will see exactly where it is on earth!
If you were wonderin'.

[BoarSpear]

Please don not reply directly back to me because I will not be returning to this forum I am to busy and will let Mr. Smith continue his fun.

Okay, folks, i said i wouldnt reply again until tim or xf got back to me, they did...Thanks for the quick replies guys. this WILL be my last post to the assortment of characters from IronPalmArts...im sure we will see more challenges and posturing and funny pms and i may post those (with commentary of course) but I am bored with these idiots, liars and posers.

This is what I have to say to you Sir.

Funny, now its sir.

As far as being trained by Shaolin Monks that is quiet funny Mr. Smith was just throwing gas on the fire.

funny the FIRST claim made to authenticate the background of their product went like this....
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in other words no one taught you to do this, you read a couple books bottled their formula and viola youre an ironpalm expert...if you used the program you listed you would know it destroyed your hands hopefully you start using it and it cripples you as bad as it does the victims youre trying to make money from

post 65

My Teachers Are The Shoalin Monks At The Temple In Georgia But, I Have Had Many Teachers And Know Many Different Techniques In Different Styles. I'm Not A Master And Do Not Claim To Be. Your Hands, Mind, And Body Will Cripple Way Before Mine Will Because Of The Negative Aura You Carry With You.

post 66

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now that doesnt sound like gas on a fire so much as making false claims about your products and how they were developed. or in simple english...lying through your teeth over the internet to promote your product sales...the ONLY reason you posted here in the first place.

I am not a master

Well no shit?? No one here ever believed you were, there are no 22 year old Masters of anything. Not even bullshitting, obviously.

and the Iron Palm instruction that are posted are not made up.

huh so you lying AGAIN all these times then?

Chase Did Make Up This Exercise And He Clearly States This In His Post.

And here on your forums where it says.....
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" Many Say Do Not Snatch The Bag! This Is My Answer To You? Without Whipping Your Hand And Snatching The Bag You Will Not Learn How To Properly Use The Iron Claw To Catch A Fist Or Even A Baseball Bat."

"Many Say Do Not Strike Yourself! This Is My Answer To You? Without Striking You Will Not Learn How To Defend Against A Strike"

"Many Say Do Not Strike The Bag! This Is My Answer To You? Without Striking You Will Not Learn How To Properly Use The Iron Hand."

http://www.ironpalmarts.com/phpBB/viewforum.php?f=2

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So chase DIDNT invent all these systems then??...chase wasnt telling people to ignore the proper ways to train ironpalm and just buy his jow and do it like this? All because Chase was trained by shaolin monks and was giving us the real deal? isnt that the image youre trying to portray?

and the section labeled "secret training methods" on your forums that says chase created those, that isnt true either?
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" Secret Training Methods
Unusual Training Methods Chase Has Created Or Learned Over The Years"

http://www.ironpalmarts.com/phpBB/

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The address 70 Sycamore St, Van Wert, Georgia is real

no it wasnt real, you ran two names into one, AND gave the name of the next town over...you intentionally provided a half assed incorrect address you thought you could get away with...after all what BUSINESS doesnt know what town its in? or and an even better question, what kind of business lies about its location?

and it is my address so please do not come here if your looking to start trouble but, if you would like to have some herbal tea and talk about the arts I would be more than happy to introduce you to my family.

you cant make up your mind who you are, where you are, who taught you, or even your own intentions...actually i thinks its just more lies bacause these dont sound like invites for tea....
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One last thing Boar
Tell us that they are all over the age of eighteen and that none of them are affiliated with law enforcement of any kind - you can PM me to be discreet and you and I can arrange for a time & place, at which time when you are able to speak with them ever again, you can update your fanfare here at defend.net of the status of our meeting.
I think it's a GREAT IDEA!

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now you had ALREADY sent me some interesting pms...which we will address in a second...but first this little comment you just made fits in real nice before we read your pms to me.

In your case some of comments you have posted are very disturbing

what i find disturbing is this is how IronPalmArts does business, by making false claims and posting a fake address then sending me pms like this...never mind the bible quotes you try to send me afterwards....

The pms are complete and in order (I have highlighted some things in color and had to remove some smileys)... i will foward the original pms to anyone who wants them.

I think it's time to quit shooting shit here - I'd like to meet you -

Let's get together - I think we would have a good time getting to know each other - I tell ya what - You do have my address now... you feel free to drop in ANY time you like... I would definately knock.

If you are unsure of meeting local to me, we can arrange a place to meet where you are at... I am pretty much self employed and have a lot of spare time on my hands doing odd jobs.

It would really be no prob for me to arrange a trip if you can provide me with a phone number I can call you at - maybe even send a letter to the address I mentioned previously in the thread -

At any rate, it'd be a hell of a great time I think - we could bury some things, ya know?

Please get back to me soon!

i already tried, to find you at your address you provided...it was bullshit...i dont have alot of time to waste...you had your chance with me. I have lots of students closer to your age chomping at the bit...they drove from brunswick on a wild goose chase you provided ...they aint amused either, well not true actually they laughed all the way there, and all the way back, well actually as i write this they arent even home yet. but they are still laughing. send me copies of some documents with proof of address and the temple and the monks who teach there...or piss off...provide those conditions i will be more than happy to me you AND THE MONKS....no monks and youre still just a monkey. if you wanna push that i am running...bullshit and you know it...you lied about your location....we tried....im sure the students will happy to talk if you insist however.

GODDAMN YOU! **** YOU AND YOUR GODDAMN MOTHER FUCKING PISS ANT STUDENTS - YOU GODDAMN LYING PRICK!

You have no goddamn students you FUCKING LIAR! I want to meet you and end this NOW! Don't be blowing smoke about your "not running" - If you want to play games, by God I will play serious games with you - you REALLY barked up the WRONG FUCKING TREE this time ant!

This doesn't go away now... Learn ALL THE FUCKING MARTIAL ARTS you can NOW! They won't stop ANYTHING I have in store for you - I PROMISE!

i dont have students huh? heheheh so you dont know who i am then? moron you are a troll...funny site, thats what the consensus is but youre still a troll... btw did you get my pm about bullshido and self defense forums? bullshido specializes in bogus martial art scams and claims....the 3 forums share a large membership...it seems the new bullshido project is going to be looking into your school and monks...

Tell ya what there - I'm tired of this petty slander - if you do have students, have them watch your back now...

SLANDER? how is asking for proof of your claims slander? you claim shaolin monks in ga taught you at the temple i asked where...you gave a bogus address ...i called you on it...you did sell jow in plastic..i called you on it...i never said anything you didnt claim first...then i just proved that wasnt the case or asked you to prove it..you are obviously new to the net and lost your cool when you made a stupid claim like a shaolin temple in ga ....now youre threating to sneak attack me. Are you threatining me with physical harm? is that it? you really are a delusional kid arent you?

And after watching the IropPalmArts gang spend hours last night reading all my threads and hunting dirt or videos i sent them this....

Learning?
I see you.....so... have you learned anything yet? ....You never answered me, are you threatening me? are you planning an ambush attack or just burning my school down? Im not quite sure what you mean by bury some things when you see me and watch my back...are you threatining the lives of my wife and children now ironpalmarts? i think you are...i believe you may have stepped in it son....pms are recorded by the forum...

Well folks thats the pm game in order and unedited...makes his bible quotes to me all the sicker huh?

Below is a quote from the Bible that I would advice you and your friend read and read it well.


Enter not into the path of
the wicked, and go not in
the way of evil men,

Avoid it, pass not by it,
turn from it, and pass away

For they sleep not, except
they have done mischief; and
their sleep is taken away,
unless they cause someone
to fall

For they eat the bread
wickedness , and drink to wine
of violence. “Jesus Christ”

Thanks And God Bless

Chase Benefield

"You may doubt what I say,
but the people will always
believe in what I do." "Chase"

I think that pretty much sums this laugh fest up...you posted a fake address and lied your way through the thread, all to sell your dit da jow, IronPalmArts.
I have wasted all the time intend on you and your lies...get a life, and stay out of mine, i wont bother replying to your lies or nonsense again...i do take threats seriously though even from lying posers like yourself, so if you wanna try to hunt me down do so... just realize your threats have been posted on the net and tied to your business so in essence, to quote George Bush on two accounts, "mission accomplished" showing you for a fool and a liar...and as for your threats i better watch my back? "BRING IT ON".

[Tom Yum]

Great job handling these characters, Boar.

I think they are repeat group of trolls, considering their tactics.

There was a troll by the name of ryta1234 that pm'd me with similar threats when I was new to the site.

He/She/It is gone from the site.

[IPA]

Received this letter from BoarSpear today....

You're absolutely right, I think this does end here Boar - now you want to THREATEN the lives of our families in an email??

READ THIS EMAIL WE RECEIVED FROM BOARSPEAR THIS MORNING:

----- Original Message -----
From: boarspearsux@gmail.com
To: ironpalm@ironpalmarts.com
Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2006 11:32 AM
Subject: ends here?


Troll, you have gone too far now and you're at a dead end. One of my students knows exactly where you live and what your home looks like. He stayed long enough to know that your wife, or the girl that lives there is in and out quite often and that the home seems vacant a good portion of the early afternoon.... i think you should know that i have friends and students who would kill for me if thats what the situation requires... in fact troll, the people on this thread calling you a LIAR and a FAKE have all talked with me on a private level and you aren't too far away from meeting them at yoiur doorstep!!!!!

Yeah FAKE...we're going to see it end here.... forget about your lies and silly propaganda to sell your product...don't you think your families lives are more important than money?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!

Junior, watch your back! Or maybe your monks can :~)

Okay - now this game gets REAL SERIOUS!

[blitz]

boarspearsux@gmail.com???? lol

If boar actually wrote that, I think its wrong.

[shaolin-warrior]

You'll never make me believe that outright lie. Your out of control. Why even bother posting here? Go back to your peaceful little town and quit stirring the pot.

[BoarSpear]

Received this letter from BoarSpear today....

You're absolutely right, I think this does end here Boar - now you want to THREATEN the lives of our families in an email??

READ THIS EMAIL WE RECEIVED FROM BOARSPEAR THIS MORNING:

----- Original Message -----
From: boarspearsux@gmail.com
To: ironpalm@ironpalmarts.com
Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2006 11:32 AM
Subject: ends here?


Troll, you have gone too far now and you're at a dead end. One of my students knows exactly where you live and what your home looks like. He stayed long enough to know that your wife, or the girl that lives there is in and out quite often and that the home seems vacant a good portion of the early afternoon.... i think you should know that i have friends and students who would kill for me if thats what the situation requires... in fact troll, the people on this thread calling you a LIAR and a FAKE have all talked with me on a private level and you aren't too far away from meeting them at yoiur doorstep!!!!!

Yeah FAKE...we're going to see it end here.... forget about your lies and silly propaganda to sell your product...don't you think your families lives are more important than money?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!

Junior, watch your back! Or maybe your monks can :~)

Okay - now this game gets REAL SERIOUS!

Lets just i want wanted a copy of this phony email that was just attributted to me by the staff at IronPalmArts, before they tried to erase the evidence. i believe its time for contact with the OWNER of the site and GOOGLE to verify i didnt send them any email, much less this outright lie.

[eXcessiveForce]

Please post complete header information for that email.

Thanks,

Excessiveforce
Moderator