something bugging my mind.."milk is bad"

[Black Emerald]

ok so yes, you've made some good points but look- tell me one thing about milk that might cause some kind of harm to the human body, one thing which the milk contains and isn't good for us- there is no such thing! and you can't compare us to cows or to any other animal. cows don't drink milk because that's just the way nature works. the human body doesn't "shut down" its need for milk because that means shutting down its need for calcium and just like there's always a need for some kind of amount of oxygen, there will always be a need for certain amount of calcium, that is if we want to develop correctly and live a long and healthy life. there is not one thing about milk that could cause some kind of damage to the human body, there isn't anybody in the world that became sick as a result of drinking milk and if you're dismissing milk, you're dismissing many other products that are absolutely nesseccary for us! what doesn't kill us- makes us stronger and i see no reason to stop drinking milk when it contains so many things that are good for us and moreover- healthy and neccessary for us. even if we were built exactly like other mammals it doesn't mean that we should stop drinking milk just because they don't drink milk, we shouldn't compare ourselves to others. milk is good for the human body! milk is healthy for the human body! milk contains ingridients that are 100% healthy and even nesseccary for the human body! there is a reason for the fact that people keep telling you "drink milk- you'll grow and be strong" and that is that milk is good for you! good in every single way imaginable! and the fact that you can't see the benefit doesn't mean there's harm but the fact that milk contains so many things that affect your body in such a direct and positive way does mean that you should drink milk! you have to drink milk! go and have a glass of milk right now! i'm no expert in this subject but everything that i've written here is just facts, pure and simple facts. it doesn't matter how much you try to avoid unhealthy foods and sweets and how much you exercise- it is not worth anything if you don't get the protein and calcium that you need! so go right now and drink some milk! lol but don't exaggarate cause it doesn't matter how good something is for you, too much of it might do the oppsite adn cause some kind of harm...milk is good and don't let anybody convince you otherwise!

[adacas]

screw cow milk man.
I'm gonna find me a busty young broad who is lactating and suck it straight myself. Hell it's even better than cow milk and its kinda of a dinner and a show.

[begins]

^ funny guy, well said adacas....dinner and a show....heh heh heh...


now *cracks nuckles* onto this discussion....Black Emerald... there is one thing u keep saying that just made me chuckle...

everything that i've written here is just facts, pure and simple facts

facts said by everything i listed before; your cafeteria posters and Got Milk? ads... your not stating anything here that i havent blundered in my last post. To make things clear though, milk DOES affect your body, and what doesnt kill you CAN still hurt you. Do you know what Menopause is? (sorry for sp) ... its when a woman cannot make give birth to a child any more... please think about that. Many things have been linked to milk products including childhood diabetes and the whole lactose thing i mentioned before... that then leads to seriouse problems and so on and so forth ( im leaving out alot of medical problems for the simple reason of me trying to get to bed)

Another thing u repeatedly hit me with was

milk is good for you! good in every single way imaginable! and the fact that you can't see the benefit doesn't mean there's harm but the fact that milk contains so many things that affect your body in such a direct and positive way does mean that you should drink milk!

so...whats in milk...that we need, c'mon, hit me with them...

calcium?? i already stated before why we dont need those levels of calcium and why there is so much in milk, ( the whole COW thing...i.e. hooves, large bone structure etc..). Protien? we get enough protien through our daily diets ( the parts that dont have dairy) that this just becomes a inclination which makes no sense. Dont forget the many different chemicals given to the cow that let them produce 50,000 gallons of "specialized" milk to us each year.

cows don't drink milk because that's just the way nature works. the human body doesn't "shut down" its need for milk because that means shutting down its need for calcium and just like there's always a need for some kind of amount of oxygen, there will always be a need for certain amount of calcium, that is if we want to develop correctly and live a long and healthy life.

what?!?!

the human body does shut down its need for a mothers milk, we are not so *distant* from the whole, you know, EARTH thing then u try to contimplate, its scientificly proven so please dont go on with that...please. And the need for calcium, like i stated above, calcium is in so many different foods...this goes into the whole arguement i made before about many...MANY countries not having dairy yet still somehow, magicly, maintain a healthy lifestyle.

anything else? please feel free

peace

[adacas]

Milk like anything esle is good for you to a point. Shoot you can die from too much water. Everything has its up and downs. I laugh whenever somebody asks me where they could buy some health food. I tell them there is no such thing and they should not waster their money on Jenny Craig tv dinners. Food can be healthful though. Milk has calcium and thats great but so does many other foods. It also has vitamin D and so does other foods. It also has fat and so does other foods. I mean neanderthals were not milking cows so it is safe to say that milk was is not part of our natural diet. It is nothing more than a supplement and can be replaced very easily although it is hard finding something else that goes with a cookie. I know...I have tried dunking cookies in kool aid but it is just not the same.

[Black Emerald]

yes, i agree. milk is good for you but if you won't drink milk, nothing bad would happen since you can replace it with other foods, however, i see no reason to do that since milk does do some good to the human body and this whole thing about it causing all these medical problems- i don't think it's all proven and besides, it's usually rair. milk has its ups and downs, you can stop drinking it, you can keep drinking it, nothing bad will happen as long as you remember that the calcium and protein have to come from somewhere so just eat healthy...that's all i can say

[arsen]

Fck all that crap, milk is damn good, chocolate milk kicks ass, forget that soy stuff it tastes like crap and beans don't lactate how are you supposed to drink milk from something that doesn't lactate. MILK kicks ass I love milk, some one posted on here about Arnold not drinking milk in his bodybuilding days, yeah so what Arnold didn't need to all those steroids he was taking well compensates for not drinking milk. and about the soy milk comment I made, let me clarify (cause I know how people like to jump all over posts and over analyze what people say) it was a joke I know soy milk isn't really milk. I learned about how it was made in foods class this semester its disgusting and I think it tastes bad.

[foolsknight362]

I would just like to go on record as saying that milk includes alot in it that is good for you, however it includes alot in it that is bad for you. But irregardless, without milk, there would be no cereal. And that my friends, would be bad.

[Sean Dempsey]

When they find the cure for:

-Cancer
-AIDS
-Car Accidents
-Gunshot wounds
-Old Age
-Slipping in the shower
-Crashing your motorcycle
-Lukemia
-Terrorist Attacks
-House fires
-Rattlesnakes

THEN I'll worry about what I eat and drink. I am pretty healthy myself, but I think the good/bad impact Milk has on your life is pretty infantesimal.

10 out of 10 doctors say that if you stop drinking milk now, something else is still gonna kill you.

And frankly, I like milk, and I am MUCH MUCH more likely to die or suffer from car accidents than I am milk.

[Angel-of-Death]

Originally posted by begins
lWhile you are all saying that the problems in our growth can be tracked to fast food or a number of other things why is it that women in North America and Europe get menapause and in many other countries (i.e. Japan or India) they dont... hmmm....and they dont intake dairy...a puzzle indeed

*Takes a deep breath*

So why is that many Asian and Indian women suffer from osteoporosis later in life? Could it be that their bones just aren’t as strong people who drink milk? A puzzle indeed...

[AsianGrrl]

Originally posted by Angel-of-Death


So why is that many Asian and Indian women suffer from osteoporosis later in life? Could it be that their bones just aren’t as strong people who drink milk? A puzzle indeed...

What about all the women in AMERICA that suffer from Osteoporosis later in life????? It is quite a problem in this country also.

Blackemerald stated earlier that milk never made anyone sick. Well milk makes me so sick it's not even funny. If i drink one glass of milk, i'm literally in Gastrointestinal hell for 2 hours afterwards. Just because some groups of people have evolved better to digest milk, doesn't mean it's good for everyone and crucial to development. I can get the same amount of calcium in a glass of fortified orange juice and some cows poor teat didn't have to suffer for it.

[Angel-of-Death]

I'm sorry to have offended you, AsianGrrl. That was not my intent at all, and I apologize.

Anyway, the fact still remains that most doctors would not recommend fortified orange juice as your sole intake of calcium over milk, and other dairy products.

"Calcium-fortified orange juice manufacturers claim to provide the same amount of calcium in a serving of orange juice that a cup of milk would offer. However, it's important to remember that it takes more than just calcium to build and maintain strong bones. Calcium-fortified orange juice does not contain the same amounts of other bone-building nutrients as milk." - milknutrition.org

And that was not an exaggeration or a misleading statement of any kind. Orange juice just doesn't compare without vitamins and minerals like magnesium, protein, phosphorus, zinc, vitamins A and D.

And American women do suffer from osteoporosis quite a bit, you were right. But, for usually completely different reasons. Most women in the United States are not lactose intolerant or have milk allergies of any kind. They just simply refuse to drink it because it contains quite a bit of calories and fat.

For the women who are on diets because they want that super model image you can see why milk wouldn't seem too appealing. In a lot of families young girls simply do not have the opportunity of choosing skim milk as their parents may prefer something different. Studies and estimates range from 75% to 90% of teenaged girls not received enough calcium, so as you can tell that group is the most calcium-deficient.

Still, you cannot deny that with a dairy product so nutritious it actually IS good for everyone. What BlackEmeralkd meant was that there is naturally nothing in milk that will kill you because it is toxic or harmful in any way, were it not for your bodies inability. Simply because you cannot digest it as well does not take away the fact that milk potentially has the nutrients and vitamins your body needs and strives for.

[Tom Yum]

Originally posted by AsianGrrl


What about all the women in AMERICA that suffer from Osteoporosis later in life????? It is quite a problem in this country also.

Blackemerald stated earlier that milk never made anyone sick. Well milk makes me so sick it's not even funny. If i drink one glass of milk, i'm literally in Gastrointestinal hell for 2 hours afterwards. Just because some groups of people have evolved better to digest milk, doesn't mean it's good for everyone and crucial to development. I can get the same amount of calcium in a glass of fortified orange juice and some cows poor teat didn't have to suffer for it.

No egg nog for you this holiday season. I'll get you a 40 instead with a paper bag. Just don't smash it over my head for my spare change, ok. You need dollar bills to gamble. How do you know cow teats feel bad when sucked? I'm just teasing.

Happy Thanksgiving to all!

[Angel-of-Death]

Originally posted by Tom Yum
How do you know cow teats feel bad when sucked?

She doesn't. The truth is when the cows are continuously impregnated to produce milk and no one milks them it induces terrible pain because their bodies will keep producing milk which is never being taken out, eventually they'll probably explode or something, which cannot be too healthy.

Although I agree milking by hand probably is more gentle to the cow saying that milking machines cause pain is ridiculous. The cows probably can't wait to be milked.

And plus, why in the hell would a farmer ever mistreat his cows? Its in his best interest to keep them healthy or he will lose his business.

By the way, I hope you all enjoy your Thanksgiving day as much as I shall!

[AsianGrrl]

Originally posted by Angel-of-Death
She doesn't. The truth is when the cows are continuously impregnated to produce milk and no one milks them it induces terrible pain because their bodies will keep producing milk which is never being taken out, eventually they'll probably explode or something, which cannot be too healthy.

Although I agree milking by hand probably is more gentle to the cow saying that milking machines cause pain is ridiculous. The cows probably can't wait to be milked.

And plus, why in the hell would a farmer ever mistreat his cows? Its in his best interest to keep them healthy or he will lose his business.

Relax guys...the teat comment was a JOKE. Those are allowed here aren't they? I am aware that cows must be milked or they suffer ill health effects. But honestly, do any of us really know how the hell a cow's teats feel? You guys crack me up....

[Tom Yum]

Originally posted by AsianGrrl


Relax guys...the teat comment was a JOKE. Those are allowed here aren't they? I am aware that cows must be milked or they suffer ill health effects. But honestly, do any of us really know how the hell a cow's teats feel? You guys crack me up....

They feel large, full of milk with.....not that I know. We can run some sort of experiment to simulate 'milking' and get the test subject to describe how being milked feels.

Let's see....Asian Grrl and JARED EXTREME! Round 1, let the milking begin!!