marijuana

[EmptyneSs]

nobody is perfect? really? then y did u make such a big deal about my spelling? y do u try so hard to seem likeu are perfect??yet when i pointed out ur mistake, all of a sudden its ok, nobody is perfect. ur such a big hypocrite its almost as rediculous as the false claims u make.

also, y u keep insisting i am angry then make anger filled remarks to me? once again as i said before u are projecting what u feel on others.

the only thing i realize is how stupid im making u look, and thats y are so pissed. just cause u dont know jack shit about what u are trying to post about doesnt mean u gotta get mad at me. its not my fault u are a sheltered ass loser who likes to judge everyone.

haha and when did i mention i had it rough? i never said anything i like that.
u like to make up arguments for other people and respond to those fake arguments , since u cant really respond to the real ones.

[TONGPO]

..there's no talking to you, you're far too up ya own arse, but I'll try agin, I'm naught if not a trier

Hear is a thought; % wise there are more abusers of pot than alcohol. I'm not sure but its just a thought.

Would doubt it, and even if there are...you don't get many people smoking 12 joints and knocking fook outa their Mrs, smokin 12 joints and smashing a pint glass in someones face, crashing thier car......alcohol can also lead to liver failure, Hepatitus C etc.....so when abused its no worse or better than pot, except you 're against pot in any qty. Can you spell hypocrite? Cause you can't spell 'hear' as its meant to be used

Well seeing you dropped plenty of spelling errors yourself I find its incredible that you just happened to pick up a few of mine.

Ya, but you're the one who kept going on to Emptiness about his writing. 'semi-illiterate' I think you called him. Otherwise I wouldn't give a toss

Well the vast majority of the population does not live amongst violence. Boxing along with other fighting systems have helped many people out. It also helps to take many inner-city kids off the streets.

Not a lot of point them learning self defence then is there? maybe they'd be better off smokin a j and appreciating music, socialisin better... .

You were the one who originally made comparison.

errh, yeah. Thats my point....pot gives you nothing but enhanced feelings from different chemicals being released with a moderate risk to your health. This is similar to adrenaline sports. Seems small minded to advocate 1, but look down on the other.

No. Go see a psychiatrist and get Prozac.

Hmmm, addictive (at least mentally) chemicals...so new we have no idea of anty real long term adverse seide effects, and you can condone that? But not pot where the risks and all side effects are known? Surely it can't be just because the GOvernment says so? Ya not that brainwashed alrady are ya?

For your information I'm on my 7th school, have been promoted and demoted in the same year, and involved in many sped programs, and yesterday finished summer school, and this year am will be a sophomore. But I've helped myself despite adversities that I've faced. I'm not looking for sympathy, I'm telling you that my education hasn't been too good.

BTW: I usually run what I wrote through word.

Ya obviously pretty bright then, but (sorry Im English, sophomore?) what ya tellin me there is you're about 18? I thought I knew it all then too,it'll pass.

What about the Phoenix Program one?

IME - very true.

[EmptyneSs]

Everybody makes a few mistakes every now and then, its just that people like you make mistakes so often that they make those who make every now and then look perferct. If that's above and beyond your comprehension than go back to grade school.

It's unreasonable to expect to have perfect posts 100% of the time, but its not unreasonable to expect individuals to demonstrate that they posses some level of literacy.

You're the one who said something along the lines of "haha did you see that, he made a spelling error". That sounds like malicious glee, which came about as a result of your anger.

You have much to learn young stoner. I don't have to be mad to be a mean bastard or take someone out. I observe signs of aggression, patterns of behavior and respond.

Getting angry is a waste of time and energy.

Well that just goes to show just how stupid you are. You're the one who went on a tangent about how bad alcohol and tobacco was when I never disputed it and then concluded because I never mentioned that it was bad, that I was stupid. I've already responded to your previous accusations, but apparently my responses are above and beyond.

You do realize repeating yourself to the point of sounding like a broken record doesn't reinforce your point.

If you go around calling people "sheltered" one would hope that person making these accusations had it rough and wasn't sheltered himself.

Why don't you clarify whether you had a good sheltered life and call people sheltered because you have your head up your ass or in fact you think you had it rough?

Tong Po: I'll have to get back to you later.

yawn* ^

u must live in ur own world.

[Hikage]

The Bottom Line....

Ok, I'm going to get to the bottom line as I see this is turning into not much more than a cyber-bar-room-brawl.

I am impressed by Emptyness's ability to find information to convice him that he is justified in his decision.

That's really I all I have to say in response to everything you've said so far.

Here's my major point and if you can adequately answer this, (adequately is defined as emprically, not with fluff) I might actually start smoking myself as obviously I've been misled so far in life.

Let me start with a story. There was a Christian speaker, I think it was J.R. Packard, but I might be mistaken, who was speaking at an open conference. During the talk, a man walked up through the crowd and placed a note at the speaker's feet. (We'll assume that I'm right and it was Packard). Packard bent down and read it immediately to the crowd.

Dear Mr. Packard,

I know you don't know me, but I am a philosopher specializing in agnostics (the belief that no one really can know if there is a God) and teach at a local univeristy where we will be hosting a debate between Agnosticism and Christianity tomorrow at 4. I would be honored if you would debate me personally.

Packard's reply was instantaneous. Dear sir, I am engaged at 4 tomorrow, but would be abligded to clear my schedule and debate openly with you provided that you can meet my simple criteria. That is, you must bring with you at least 3 people whose lives have been radically changed since they accepting the agnostic belief. I'm sure 3 is not too much to ask, as I could find 100 easily in this time who would profess and even prove that they underwent a tremendous, positive transformation in their lives since entrusting their lives to Christianity.

When asked if he had such people, the challenger said indeed, he did not and left.

I ask you this same question -- who has underwent radical, tremendous, positive transfomation in their lives since they started smoking marijuana?

-Hikage

[EmptyneSs]

although u may be impressed by all those, im for sure not impressed by people who like to judge other people who they do not even know. im also not impressed by hypocrites who have their head so far up their ass they dont even realize it.


im also not impressed by kids who call me young when they havent even finished going through puberty. very unimpressed.

[TONGPO]

I had a thought which I verbalized, I also said I wasn't sure whether or not it was accurate, it was meant to be bounced around and discussed in a friendly sort of way.

Can you spell dumb ass because it’s beyond me how I’m being a hypocrite by attempting to be open and discussing a idea with you. In fact I fail to see how the thought itself was hypocritical.

Its childish to look for a few mistakes in somebody's post and then make a big deal out of it. Emptyness's post was full of errors so I made mention of it.

Do you have to be a racecar driver to tell if X or Y elderly person shouldn't be driving?

I was bouncin it around and discussing - can't even see where it was 'unfriendly'

I think its hypocritical to partake in an activity that involves risk to yourself for pleasure, and to deem other activites that can be compared to this, along these lines, as 'bad' or somehow unworthy.

So I'm childish..maybe, rather that than be a child who takes offence where none iis meant. I'm was just pokin a bit of fun about the spelling, bit of a running joke, mainly 'cos you do come across as so superior and know it all.

Dumbass? ohhh, I'm cut, really hurt.

And no, but a racing driver would have a better idea than someone who'd watched a Fast 'n' Furious a few times, no?

Do you feel sorry for your fellow stoner and feel compelled to stick up for him because the bad man is being mean to him?

I did call Emptyness "semi-literate" among other things because its an accurate description. Most everything about his writing ability sucked and continues to do so.

Apparently you've got to be a rocket scientist to tell if somebody is stupid, you've got be a racecar driver to tell if an elderly person shouldn't be driving, and you've got to be a perfect speller 100% of the time to tell if somebody sucks at spelling. This is despite the fact that you do not fit the above standard which you subscribe to, seeing that your post also contained its fair share of errors and yet found it necessary to mention a few of mine.

No, just the way you hoist your ignorance on a flagpole and wave it round for all to see caught my eye.

His writing ability may suck,but that isn't semi-literate is it? So no its not accurate... . . .

Right, Im svery sorry if I've bothered you bout your spelling, you picked on Emptiness' poor spelling a few times, I thought it would be funny to point out a couple of yours...my spellin is not perfect, but Im rattling these out why taking orders, makin calls and i thinki the writing reflects that...you appear to take much more timeover it,

What a great idea, if only all the "gangstas" were to start smoking dope and listening to music then we wouldn't have any violent crime. I've never heard them blaring their musical choices for the rest of us to hear and doing drugs is unheard of.

where did I mention ganstas? You said boxing could help people with self defence, then in ya next post said that most people dodnt live in violent crime ridden areas. I replied that there's not a lot of point them learning self defence, and that they may be better spendin their time gettin stoned. See?? where did ganstas come into it?

Its understandable that small minded people would consider it small minded to advocate adrenaline sports and look down upon drug use, because their small mind doesn't allow the to evaluate the effects of the chemicals released in both activities.

Last time I checked I wasn't aware of withdrawal clinics for individuals suffering from the effects of adrenaline.

OMG and you think there are for pot?? The only people who go into rehab for pot are rich starts who want the attention.
And my point (if ya took the time to try and UNDERSTAND anythin anyone says to you)was not about addiction to adrenaline, but about the risk to your health thru accident.
So I'll try again.. there are no gains from extreme sports other than the 'buzz' the adrenaline (a chemical) being released gives you. For this there is a small trade off in a risk to your health.
There are no gains from cannabis useage other than the 'buzz' GO ON SON!!! make that leap, make the connection,you can finish the sentence can't ya? Its your mind tahts small I fear, but Im sure we can expand.....GO ON TRY AND GRASP IT

So you're telling me that the long process of evaluating drugs before they're approved by the FDA was skipped in the case of Prozac.

nope, but its not unheard of for drugs, that have been officially tested, to have side affects in the long long haul that had not been anticipated. i.e studies on long term use. You think they give a human it over a good few years? Or sometimes mistakes are made..never heard of Thalidamide?

No I'm going on 17 in September, and am a sophomore in high school. I don't know it all, its just I know more than so many others. jk Arrogance and belittling people works well to make the feel stupid and angry.

From this I can assume 1) you're a kid. 2) you have very little experiencein life 3) you like belittling people. Sound a right little twat, but Im sure Im wrong(im neither felelin angry or stupid btw...just kinda exasperated, sorry for you)

Aren't you impressed by the high number of rocket scientists, bodybuilders and martial artists who are great at what they do and use mj regularly. I'm really impressed in the case of those who claim to have great physiques, despite the munchies.

hahahahahahahahhaaa, there's more to life than being great mate, its about being happy. And believe me, you reall y are highlighting your lack of any knowledge on this by mentionin muchies for fecks sake. Mucheies!! like pot gives you this insatiable craving you cannot supress, 'must eat must eat must eat.' I have a very good physique thank you. Don't care whether you believe me. But despite having had to deal with the all encopassing evil of muncheies for the last 14 years, I still have a 6 pack etc. My record is 6-2-2, ok not a world beater, but hardly the rcord of someone in the grip of an evil and debilitating drug is it?

You need to grow up if you're makin out like you're an adult, and realise life isn't black and white, but many shades of grey. Just cos you feel summat isn't for you, doesn't mean its not for everyone else. I don'texpect you to go and try it, just consider the idea that the millions of people who do it can't all be wrong....

[Hikage]

I don't believe that anyone has answered my simple question.

-Hikage

[EmptyneSs]

I was content to live, let live, and forgive as far as you were concerned but you keep on coming back for more, which leads me to believe that you're holding a grudge. 'Tis hardly the stoner way, or so I'm told.

You aren't impressed...Good for you, go f**k yourself.

looks like someone is angry again

[EmptyneSs]

I don't believe that anyone has answered my simple question.

-Hikage

dude i havent been the only one thats posted how i have benefited from smoking mj. mabye nobody wants to answer ur simple question because even when we do, u dont seem to believe us.

i guess i can go over this one more time

i used to be upset and depressed all the time, smoking mj mellowed me out and opened me up to alot of new things. it made me a peace loving, kind hearted person, when before i was angry and depressed. is this not a significant benifit???

i used to be very skinny, to the point were my own family members would joke around and say i looked anorexic. smoking mj stimulated my appetite, allowed me to gain weight when i couldnt before. this alone changed alot for me. after gaining 20 lbs of muscle everyone looks at u different, especially girls. is this not a significant beneift???

it has helped me in martial arts as well, like i mentioned before. i could visualize concepts and ideas and techniqes better since my thoughts flow more freely and i see em from different perspectives. i belevie someone else also posted how they were able to do the same when they used mj and watched mma tapes and whatnot.

i mean i can go on if u want, but i have mentioned all this shit before in previous posts. others too have come foreward and explained about how mj has helped them.

not everyone is born perfect. look at all the people who take medication and prescription pills to help them out in their dailly lives. mj really is no different.
wether it is ur prozac, ur cofee in the morning, ur viagra, or smoking mj, it is possibly for people to benefit from these things. it is also possible for some people to go overboard with these things. people get addicted to pills, coffee, soda, etc and all kinds of things everyday, but that is on the person to have the strength to keep it all in moderation. some people dont have the strength and have addictive personalities.

its funny how hth insists on calling me a stoner in every post because i smoke mj occasionaly. u dont call someone who drinks occasionaly an alcoholic now do u ? hth might since he likes to judge people he doesnt know anything about, but most people wouldnt.

anyway i think i have gone over how pot has helped me in my life for the 2352985743294398769769837698th time on this thread, but hey if u dont want to beleive me, thats cool, thats ur thing.

[TONGPO]

On hindsight 'head up ass' wasn't cordial, so I give ya that, and take the dumbass as fair play

I understand where you're coming from

Thats good enough for me cha, all's I wanted. We're about to really start goin round in circles now, so I'll leve it.

I do understand your points, and most of em probably aren't wrong, just not right either. Pot isn't that good for ya, just not that bad either. Like I'd say with anything in life, if ya like it and it aint killin ya (NO! don't go there) why not?


Nice talking with ya mate, see ya round the other threads.... . . . . .

[Tom Yum]

dude i havent been the only one thats posted how i have benefited from smoking mj. mabye nobody wants to answer ur simple question because even when we do, u dont seem to believe us.

i guess i can go over this one more time

i used to be upset and depressed all the time, smoking mj mellowed me out and opened me up to alot of new things. it made me a peace loving, kind hearted person, when before i was angry and depressed. is this not a significant benifit???

i used to be very skinny, to the point were my own family members would joke around and say i looked anorexic. smoking mj stimulated my appetite, allowed me to gain weight when i couldnt before. this alone changed alot for me. after gaining 20 lbs of muscle everyone looks at u different, especially girls. is this not a significant beneift???

it has helped me in martial arts as well, like i mentioned before. i could visualize concepts and ideas and techniqes better since my thoughts flow more freely and i see em from different perspectives. i belevie someone else also posted how they were able to do the same when they used mj and watched mma tapes and whatnot.

i mean i can go on if u want, but i have mentioned all this shit before in previous posts. others too have come foreward and explained about how mj has helped them.

not everyone is born perfect. look at all the people who take medication and prescription pills to help them out in their dailly lives. mj really is no different.
wether it is ur prozac, ur cofee in the morning, ur viagra, or smoking mj, it is possibly for people to benefit from these things. it is also possible for some people to go overboard with these things. people get addicted to pills, coffee, soda, etc and all kinds of things everyday, but that is on the person to have the strength to keep it all in moderation. some people dont have the strength and have addictive personalities.

its funny how hth insists on calling me a stoner in every post because i smoke mj occasionaly. u dont call someone who drinks occasionaly an alcoholic now do u ? hth might since he likes to judge people he doesnt know anything about, but most people wouldnt.

anyway i think i have gone over how pot has helped me in my life for the 2352985743294398769769837698th time on this thread, but hey if u dont want to beleive me, thats cool, thats ur thing.

You do realize that if you join the military, fire department, police or any other kind of professional work that you will undergo thorough drug screening?

Some places test your hair, urine and blood thorougly. They wont take you in if you aren't drug free. Something to consider.

[TONGPO]

....and pot stays longer in your system than heroin (i am my own boss however, I fail drug screenings on a regular basis but let myself off)