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Is there any variation of a pushup that can work your biceps? Or any calisthenic for that matter?
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No. chinups will work your biceps and back muscles...Originally posted by HandtoHand -
Boxinghurts,
Forget about bicep curls. It's a stupid, non-functional, bodybuilding exercise that has no analogs in real life. Do chin-ups, as well as pull-ups, lots and lots of them. Chin-ups will work your biceps indirectly (In real life muscles like biceps only get worked indirectly). I assume, you box? Chin-ups will give you crazy hooks and uppercuts like nothing else. Good Luck.Comment
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Yeah.....basically I just wanted to strengthen my biceps cuz I couldn't curl as much as I used. Kinda vain and unrelated to fighting I know....but ty for the repliesComment
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It's not only unrelated to fighting. It can be very bad for it actually. When you isolate muscles, it's very easy to overdo it - make them big and tight and not very usable in sports. Same goes for the chest muscles- if you bench press to often (once or twice a week like bodybuilders) you run a risk of making your chest muscles overdeveloped (maybe looking nice at the beach!) but totaly useless when you're trying to throw a punch or cover-up or grapple. (I've seen guys at a gym with overdeveloped arms and chest who tried to punch a heavy bag - they were pushing the bag instead of throwing a punch and could barely move it!) Push-ups are a lot better - they'll work your whole body incl. stomach and triceps and you won't overdevelop your chest with them. You work strength and endurance at the same time. They are more functional - it's more natural for a human body to push iself up than to lift a barbell up while lying down. Same goes for arms - it's a lot more natural to pull yourself up than to curl weight while standing up. Just think about it. When I realized all this, I abandoned the isolation exercises completely. I used to follow a bodybuilding routine and I am a certified personal trainer. You just waste time and your own energy when you isolate muscle groups. You could be working on more important things like skill development, overall athletic development or overall strength development (with compound movements and calisthenics which are so cool too - push-ups, pullups, cleans and jerks, snatches, varioations of squats, deadlifts, burpees, "bears", handstand pushups, push presses, etc.) Good luck!
P.S. Yea, I am one of those people who like long posts.Comment
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Ty for all that George. Im gonna go look up half of those exercises you mentioned by the way... heh errr just one other question if you dont mind. I can do calisthenics everyday cuz they dont tear down muscle correct? I will feel as sore as I did when I lifted weights but Ive always thought I could do them without any rest days..Or have I been hurting myself?Comment
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Benchpress is okay I think for building up pecs as long as you keep them having good endurance and flexibility as well. A person though can have good-enough sized pecs for a beach and be a fine fighter; it's not like to have beach pecs, you have to make them enourmous.
I always to about 4 sets of benchpress, then 4 sets of dips (2 sets inclined to work the pecs more, 2 sets body straight to fry the triceps), man that'll work your arms like all hell!!
Calisthenics combined with the basic compound power moves of weightlifting (like squats, benchpress, deadlifts, etc...) will build you up greatly. If
Remember though, bodybuilding still IS a tough discipline and a lot of bodybuilders out there train to be a bodybuilder; they don't have some warped view that bodybuilding will make them big and tough necessarily. They want to build and shape their body. Which I respect. As long as people do what they want and are disciplined, I like that.
For fighting though, don't train like a bodybuilder. Don't do any isolation movements at all.Comment
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DO NOT do calisthenics every day, because it DOES tear down the muscle. Resistance training is resistance training, just calisthenics makes your body used to hauling its own ass around, I guess you could say.
If you are training pushups, don't do the reg. military style pushups to your max everyday; you could suffer from overuse shoulder injuries in the long run.
Do stuff like calisthenics more every other day if you get sore.Just work different parts of the body each day. Do legs on one day, then upper body the next, and do abs every day.Comment
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What broadsward is saying is right. You have to alternate exercises so that you don't overtrain. It's good to have some kind of regimen. As for me, I am sold on Crossfit.(Crossfit.com) They post workouts for you to follow, so I don't have to worry about that. They follow a 3 days on, 1 day off schedule. It work your body to a great extent and gives you some time to recover. May I just say that the workouts are absolutely great. They really push you to the limit. And they include both calisthenics and power moves such as clen and jerks, snatches as well as running, some gymnastics, etc. That program will make you super fit. Here is the list of workouts that apppeared recently:
Saturday 040918
Front Squat with 5 second hold at bottom: 3-3-3-3-3-3-3 reps.
Monday 041920
“Chelsea”
Set up before a clock, and every minute on the minute perform 5 pull-ups, 10 push-ups, and 15 squats. Can you continue for thirty minutes? Twenty minutes? How about 10?
Post results to comments. If you fall behind the clock keep going for thirty minutes and see how many rounds you can complete.
Tuesday 040921
”Gwen”
Clean & Jerk 15-12-9 reps
Touch and go at floor only. Even a re-grip off the floor is a foul. No dumping. Use same load for each set. Rest as needed between sets.
Wednesday 040922
Five rounds for time of:
Run 400 meters
21 Sit-ups
21 Back Extensions
21 Knees to elbows
Friday 040924
Deadlift 3-2-2-2-1-1-1-1-1Comment
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If I did different variations of pushups(or any upper body calisthenic) every day would i still be at risk of shoulder injury? So basically I have to treat body weight exercises the same as weights...no working a muscle two days in a row...
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Do bodyweight dips, not only will they work your pecs but your bis, tris, shoulders, and upper back too. Once those get too easy, throw on a weight belt and add 10lbs, then 20lbs, etc.Comment
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Get up on two parallel bars with your arms locked out straight holding your body up and your legs crossed underneath you. Now bend your arms till they're flat to the floor but no further. That's one. Do a lot of those and they'll pump you up pretty good.Comment
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Again, dips are a big part of Crossfit along with ring dips (dips done on gymnastics rings). Here's the link to some of Crossfit exercises (videos and slides):
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go to Crossfit.com and they have a clip of themComment
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WHOOPS; okay, ignore that last post of mine, I was replying to the end of the first page of this thread, I didn't realize there were more than one.Comment
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