Low Fat Myth

[treelizard]

http://www.wsrcc.com/alison/fat/lowfatmyth.html

[EmptyneSs]

"Mainstream nutritional science has demonized dietary fat, yet 50 years and hundreds of millions of dollars of research have failed to prove that eating a low-fat diet will help you live longer."

well, eating a high fat diet has indeed been proven to cause all kinds of problems, and we have fat people dying everyday in this country. so much so that it has been termed an "epidemic".

look at these fat fucks right here, wtf. that kids gonna need a bypass heart surgery by the time he is 10.

[treelizard]

I would argue that high carbs and bad fats are more to blame than high fat.

[eXcessiveForce]

yup, if you eat a very high fat diet you will lose weight, in fact you will lose it very quickly if you limit carbs.

20 to 30 lbs a week of the Fat Fast diet that has been used for obese people.

[treelizard]

Saturated fat is absolutely necessary for omega-3 fatty acids to be utilized correctly, to get into fat burning mode (growth hormone) instead of just carb-burning (insulin resistance) mode. This isn't an opinion but a biochemical fact that seems to be conveniently overlooked by the grain cartel.

I was doing Zone diet for a long time but then I compared Zone recommendations (30% fat) with the Anthropological Codex (which is a compilation and analysis of the nutritional info/macronutrient composition of hunger-gatherer diets). The fat percentage in the AC was between 28-58% (with protein between 19-35% and carbs between 22-40). This is actually lower than the Weston Price recommendations, but I'll stick with it.

Too much protein turns to sugar and most of us know the problem with too much carbs, so fat is a good way to get extra calories. (I'm not advocating low carb, too little carb and the body burns muscle so you are thin and flabby.)

According to writing by Ron Rosedale, lower carbs and more good oils normalize elevated trigylcerides and move blood lipids toward normal.

Also, here's some info on Syndrome X which was mentioned in the article:

http://medherb.com/Syndrome_X.htm

[EmptyneSs]

i cant get over the pic of these 2 kids. its mind boggling. im never eating fast food again. that kid is in horrible condition, its almost inreal. the parents need to be held responsible inmop. how can let this happen to your kid?

lol if that kid was to go to somalia or other parts of africa, they would so totally eat him. that kid in the red hat could feed a family of starving africans for like 2 weeks i bet

[Maxx]

As a personal trainer I do a lot of research on this topic. Not only by reading research from various sites on the web but also by talking with dieticians and nutritionists regarding macro nutrient balances and what will promote the greatest results with regards to fat loss. Most of the info that I've read comes down to one immutable law... make sure you are on a calorie deficit.

If you are taking in 2000 calories a day and you are burning 2500 a day you can expect to lose a pount of weight in 1 week (7 days) Supplementing your calorie control with weight training and cardiovascular training and you will not only speed up the process of weight loss, but you will also maintain more lean muscle mass, thus keeping your metabolism higher.

The interesting thing with regards to a lot of the fad diets out there such as high-protein-low-carb and the low-fat diet as well as some of the other more obscure diets such as the alkaline diet, etc is that they all work if you are burning more than you are taking in. They also all fail if you are takingin more than you are burning.

One of the questions I recently asked a dietician was about high-glycemic carbs compared to low-glycemic carbs. "Will eating a diet where the carbohydrate intake is based more on low glycemic carbs as opposed to higher glycemic carbs make a difference in the amount of fat lost, assuming that all other aspects of the diet are identical... meaning total calories and macronutrient balances?" The answer is no... not really. The whole glycemic index thing is used primarily for diebetics who need to control and monitor their blood sugar.

It has been postulated though that a diet higher in protein and low glycemic carbs can help you lose weight faster for 1 specific reason... you don't eat as much. The body has to work much harder to process protein... it takes a while to break it down and lower glycemic carbs also take longer to digest. Because of that, the processing time of the food is slower and it will take a longer time for the body to get hungry again.

[eXcessiveForce]

that is essentially my understanding as well.

except that weight loss is not the only factor. It is also maintaining that weight loss without reducing muscle mass. This is a bit harder.

[treelizard]

I just know that when I balance my diet and eat carbs and protein, I feel less spacy and more energized. When I eat too many carbs I feel all spacey, when I eat too much protein and not enough carbs my energy is messed up. The Zone is awesome.

[Maxx]

From what I've read about the zone it's a pretty well balanced program. My problem with most diets or eating behaviors like that is that the most simple element of weight loss is often ignored... more than likely because the authors would like to attribute whatever success an individual has to the program itself as opposed to the amount of calories consumed.

[treelizard]

There are a LOT of other problems with elevated blood sugar levels, other than obesity, syndrome X, diabetes, etc. Most recent one I've read about is Alzheimer's, here's an article that was posted on crossfit today: http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/heal...p?newsid=47452

[Maxx]

There are a LOT of other problems with elevated blood sugar levels, other than obesity, syndrome X, diabetes, etc. Most recent one I've read about is Alzheimer's, here's an article that was posted on crossfit today: http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/heal...p?newsid=47452

That's an interesting article. Thanks for posting it. I'm going to print it out and keep a copy in my informational folder.

I wouldn't get too worried about it if I were you though. While high blood sugar, and type II diabetes is certainly reaching the crisis state in the U.S. realize that most of the people who develop these issues are already obese, do not partake of regular moderate to rigorous exercise, already possess hypertension/high blood pressure and have a terrible diet. Most people on this forum are reasonably healthy, exercise regularly and are relatively conscious of what they are eating. Most people on this forum probably don't have out of control hypertension either, but there are genetic factors involved in some cases with that so I can't be sure.

Also remember that high glycemic carbs are necessary for building muscle. After exercise, particularly resistance exercise it is wise to combine high glycemic carbs with proteins. This process increases protein synthesis and speeds amino acids to the damaged tissues to begin repair.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not advocating the butterstick-and-brown-sugar diet but sugars and other high glycemic carbs do in fact have their uses and are nowhere near as dangerous as the media would have us believe.

[treelizard]

I'm not "worried about it"--I am just pointing out that if someone is concerned about their health, they may want to cut their carbs, and I'm posting research that supports this. Too much carbohydrate intake causes abnormally elevated blood sugar. This is not some oddball theory, but a reputable FACT that is conveniently overlooked even though it is documented science. Research is supporting the theory that Alzheimer's is caused by hyperinsulinism. If you read Paul Bergner's information on Syndrome X, you will see that there is more than just Alzheimer's that is caused or potentially caused by hyperinsulinism.

I would really like to see any reference material that you have which indicates that high glycemic carbs (as opposed to low glycemic carbs) are necessary for building muscle.

I am not anti-carb. I get about 40% of my food from carbs. But it's mostly from fruits and vegetables and I only use grains as a condiment.

If you are going to eat grain, you may want to pre-soak or sprout them to get rid of the phytic acids--which are actually used as a treatment for excess iron. They can cause iron and other mineral deficiencies. Again, though, grains cause hyperinsulemia--this is documented and provable. The book Dangerous Grains is very informative. Grains also don't have much nutritional value.

[Maxx]

Here's a article that mentions it. There are many out there. If you do a search on high glycemic carbs and muscle building you'll find more articles.

http://www.flexonline.com/nutr/33

Essentially, high glycemic carbs cause a spike in insulin which is a highly anabolic hormone in the body. It is responsible for shuttling blood sugar into the cell for processing as energy. It also increases the flow of amino acids to the muscle cells to begin the repair process.

Please understand that I'm not trying to say there are not health concerns with regards to the over consumption of high glycemic carbs. That's not my objective. I think that it's easy to see that the overconsumption has lead to many of the ills that you've mentioned and probably more that haven't been thoroughly researched yet. My main point is that the consumption of low glycemic carbs as opposed to high glycemic carbs will have little effect on weight loss. The golden rule is to be on a calorie deficit to lose weight. You could actually get fat eating nothing but chicken and broccoli if you ate too much of it.

I'm also not saying that high glycemic carbs are necessarily a good choice. They have their place... for muscle building for example. Lower glycemic carbs are generally higher in fiber which is good for slowing digestion as well had promoting a healthy digestive tract.

And as mentioned before, I'm not advocating a high glycemic carbohydrate diet. I'm saying that they can be a part of a healthy diet. But like all things you have to use moderation. Most of the people out there that have developed any of the health problems associated with the consumption of high glycemic carbs and saturated fats have probably done everything but use moderation in their choices.

[treelizard]

That article is from a bodybuilding magazine; it's not a scientific study. And in general most bodybuilders are more concerned with form than function.

Consumption of low glycemic carbs vs. high glycemic carbs has a huge effect on weight loss. High glycemic carbs lower blood sugar level and keep you craving more carbs due to excess insulin.