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  • #16
    Originally posted by koto_ryu
    Mostly
    Yeah, like John Laroquette (Dan Fielding) from the 80's hit TV series Nightcourt

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    • #17
      I love it when people take my bait but oh Tom, don't stop, don't stop!!!!!!!!!!

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      • #18
        Originally posted by polegirl
        I love it when people take my bait but oh Tom, don't stop, don't stop!!!!!!!!!!
        you've become the master baiter, woman.

        Nevermind, remember let's keep this decent and less steamy so that all can view.

        You don't want to damage Excessiveforce's innocence now...

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        • #19
          Originally posted by polegirl
          ..... Most martial artists know that is not size that counts (yes boys in this case it is the truth!!!!) but rather skill.....!!

          This is good to know, I was always told the bigger they are the harder they FALL!

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          • #20
            Originally posted by Tant01
            This is good to know, I was always told the bigger they are the harder they FALL!
            Bathroom Mechanics

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            • #21
              Good points, man.

              Size and strength are important. A dude that can total over 1200 lbs in power lifting would be able to dominate a 13 year old black belt. A 200 lb man would have a serious size advantage over an average sized lady who took SD classes.

              Fights are unpredictable though; technique brings speed and power to the game which can even the odds.

              Someone said before a big man with good technique vs a smaller man with equal technique, favors the big man all else being equal.

              That's the truth.

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              • #22
                All other things being equal (skill etc) then yes the bigger man will win. But considering Royce Gracie's recent win over a huge guy at least twice his size goes to prove that size does not win over skill. Of course this is a professional fight but I have managed to get guys at least twice my size off me using BJJ (and I am talking basic BJJ nothing fancy...and we were wrestling in a class) and they are always surprised. And sometimes in a SD situation the ability to surprise your opponent gives you a real advantage.

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by HandtoHand
                  A weightlifter with a little boxing or wrestling experience will usually destroy student of karate or some martial art,
                  It all depends on which martial art and if said weightlifter is just of the pumping variety or an actual competitive lifter. If he's one of the schmucks in the health club doing isolation exercises all day, he'd be toast against even an average student in some form of combat art, as all that muscle is for show, not function. If he's a competitive lifter or strongman, however, get the **** away from him!

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by koto_ryu
                    If he's a competitive lifter or strongman, however, get the **** away from him!
                    Yeah. Same with a competitive lifter with a decent wrestling/boxing background. Yet there are still TMA guys that think this is an inferior fighting background.

                    Competitive lifters don't look as mean or big as bodybuilders, so they must be less capable

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by HandtoHand
                      No, it means that Royce's skill was so much greater than his opponent that he was able to overcome the opponent's superior size. A friendly match in the Dojo is a quite a bit different. On the street when your opponent's on the ground you don't get down and join them you; pin and pound, stand and swing, or stomp and/or kick (that's a felony).
                      Hand to Hand I am not really sure about your quote if you read my quote you will find that I was making the point that all things being equal skill wins over size and was using Royce Gracie as an example!!!!! So in this case I think you meant yes not no and we in fact are in agreement.

                      You are also making the assumption that a self defence situation is only on the street (it might begin in your home) and begins in a standing position. For some women (and also men) the fight begins on the ground or they find themselves on the ground and as such you can not always "stand and swing". You are right in that if I was standing I would probably not take it to the ground but if I end up there I need to know how to defend myself (which is why BJJ is so great). If I ever found myself in a SD situation (and I hope I never do) then I will use all my skill to do what I can to get out of the situation (including my ability to run away).

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by HandtoHand
                        Exactly.
                        Anyways I figure it's time to mention some advantages that little people have;
                        - A small guy in a violent environment will be forced to fight more often than his large counterpart giving him more experience
                        - A small guy is more likely to lift weights, and/or train in a fighting style as there's no sheer girth to protect him
                        - A small person has a lower center of gravity
                        Yeah. That's true

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                        • #27
                          It all depends; size, strength, skill, aggression, etc.... I watched a match a month ago where a really average built guy with some grappling experience took on this bodybuilder guy with these huge arms. The bodybuilder guy obviously had a strength advantage, so they went at it for quite awhile on the mat, but the grappler dude hung in there, and in the end, made the stronger guy tap.

                          Granted, this was a friendly match, they weren't trying to seriously hurt each other or anything, but all the big strong guys watching were really impressed and wanted to learn grappling afterwards.

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                          • #28
                            hey maybe its you that you think your badass

                            hmm so you think your badass for the ways i hear of it and you probably think your a good fighter im about ur height and weight you said u did tkd? hmm im korea at the moment im korean i wouldnt mind showing you some tkd lol and while im at it ill show you some 2 years plus training in muay thai btw thats 4 hours a day im coming back to the states soon so hope to hear from u

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by HandtoHand
                              Sircnay is clearly a badass! He's badder than ole king kong meaner than a Junkyard dog...
                              Didn't godzilla fight king kong and beat him once?

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by Tom Yum
                                Didn't godzilla fight king kong and beat him once?
                                Yup. They fought twice. One time godzilla dominated and another time the fight occurred during a storm so the zilla man couldn't power up his blast. He still beat on Kong pretty bad until Kong got energized by a bolt of lightening.

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