Jim Lampley Arrested On Domestic Charges!

[nyckid]

http://www.fightbeat.com/news_details.php?NW=875

[Sagacious Lu]

That's strange... when I was doing journalism it was against the paper's policy to report on domestic violence to save the victim from embarrassment.

[Tom Yum]

That's strange... when I was doing journalism it was against the paper's policy to report on domestic violence to save the victim from embarrassment.

Is that a national policy or a local thing?

[Sagacious Lu]

Is that a national policy or a local thing?

To be honest I don't know, I just know that that's how it's done in New Jersey. It took me about 9 nine months to realize that journalism was sucking all the joy out of writing and that I hated the job so that's the limit of my experience.

[Tom Yum]

To be honest I don't know, I just know that that's how it's done in New Jersey. It took me about 9 nine months to realize that journalism was sucking all the joy out of writing and that I hated the job so that's the limit of my experience.

Are you sure it wasn't the people?

[7r14ngL3Ch0k3]

Good. Lampley is one of those boxing old timer fans who bad mouth MMA and think its inferior or a bar room brawls type of thing.

[Uke]

Good. Lampley is one of those boxing old timer fans who bad mouth MMA and think its inferior or a bar room brawls type of thing.

That would be the one thing that Lampley would have been right about.

[SamuraiGuy]

That would be the one thing that Lampley would have been right about.

Oh get off your high horse,

We all know your thoughts on MMA. Boxing and MMA are both sports, they are both fine, theres nothing wrong with either, there just different.

[Uke]

Oh get off your high horse,

We all know your thoughts on MMA. Boxing and MMA are both sports, they are both fine, theres nothing wrong with either, there just different.

Don't talk to me about some high horse shit. There are a lot of people who share the same thoughts on MMA, and many of them are professional athletes, pundits, commentators and fans. Lampley is just one of many. You just can't stand the fact that the world knows what's real and what's make believe. All I did was agree with Lampley and you got your panties all up in a bunch.

I never said that there was anything wrong with boxing or MMA. I said there was something wrong with trying to pass off bullshit for realism on an entirely different topic. I LOVE boxing and always will. Its the most exciting combat sport IMO and will remain that way because the athletes in boxing events are highly trained in their range so it doesn't look like a sloppy brawl fest.

[SamuraiGuy]

Don't talk to me about some high horse shit. There are a lot of people who share the same thoughts on MMA, and many of them are professional athletes, pundits, commentators and fans. Lampley is just one of many. You just can't stand the fact that the world knows what's real and what's make believe. All I did was agree with Lampley and you got your panties all up in a bunch.

I never said that there was anything wrong with boxing or MMA. I said there was something wrong with trying to pass off bullshit for realism on an entirely different topic. I LOVE boxing and always will. Its the most exciting combat sport IMO and will remain that way because the athletes in boxing events are highly trained in their range so it doesn't look like a sloppy brawl fest.

You insolent little bitch, you are on your high horse. If you havent noticed I'm ambivalent to the whole MMA versus boxing versus RBSD versus whatever. I just dont care, you say I'm getting my panties in a bunch, doubt it, your the one who feels the need to bash it at every opportunity, maybe your getting your panties in a bunch becaues your precious boxing isnt going to be #1 for very much longer. As I said I see them both as equal, so dont you just dismiss MMA.

As for your bullshit for realism, if you love boxing because the athletes are highly trained in the range, than you should love MMA for that reason. A sloppy brawl fest, jesus, these athletes are highly trained in their range MMA. And if you want to take it one step further, you have MMA athletes that are highly trained in other ranges of combat sports. Pawel Nastula... olympic gold medal judoka. Is judo a sloppy brawl fest? How bout Matt Lindland? Oh that silver medal at the olympics, yes sir he's got no skills, you can find anyone in the nearest bar that can fight like him.

How bout Yoshida, another WORLD CLASS judoka. **** man that guy though, I think I ran into him at my highschool once, he was the one throwing the sloppy haymakers against another guy throwing sloppy haymakers..... yeah your right he is just a brawler. *rolls eyes*

If you enjoy boxing more thats fine, dont just bash/dismiss MMA because its not what you prefer.

[7r14ngL3Ch0k3]

Its the most exciting combat sport IMO and will remain that way because the athletes in boxing events are highly trained in their range so it doesn't look like a sloppy brawl fest.

You do know Jim Lampley is one of those geezers who preaches that MMA(excuse me, Ultimate Fighting) is human cockfighting, that a Boxer would destroy an MMA fighter in an MMA fight, that its not a legitimate combat sport, its a bar room brawl and a FAD. Shit like that.

Surely, you dont agree with him on that.

And a pro mma fight doesnt look like a sloppy brawl fest... that comment was just fuckin stupid. You obviously watch zero MMA if you think that.

Oh, and for the record, MMA is waaay more exciting than Boxing.

[Uke]

How am I on a high horse? You can't even explain it. My original response was "That would be the one thing that Lampley would have been right about", and you went into a cry-baby fit and decided to offer your 2 cents when you really have nothing to say, but that's typical on this site.

There are a lot of people who feel the way that I do. Lampley being just one of many. But its people like you and 7r14ngL3Ch0k3 that want your own opinions to be the only opinions, and it isn't. So grow up and get over it.

Boxing IMO is the superior sporting event. Boxers are IMO the superior athletes. Boxers and K-1 fighters IMO are the epitome of combat sports. When you talk about the best boxers or kickboxers, they have been training in their range for years. Many since childhood.

When you talk about the best MMA fighters, why is it that they are always not from MMA? Yoshida is a JUDO champion, not an MMA fighter. So why talk about him like he's highly skilled because of MMA? When he fought Silva it looked like a tough man contest. He's a judoka not a boxer or a brawler. And it showed. I don't care if he was Jigoro Kano ... if he's gonna fight like that it looks undisciplined, wild and unorganized. Basically a brawl.

Now, you can take that and feel like you need to reply so you can argue and stick your chest out. Or you can realize that everyone, including Lampley, has the right to their opinion.

This isn't a debate. If it was I'd have used facts like I usually do and you wouldn't have even bothered to post like usual. Keep in mind that all I wrote was:

"That would be the one thing that Lampley would have been right about."

[SamuraiGuy]

It became a debate when you wrote "all you wrote". Thats a statement that starts a debate because Lampley says MMA is stupid, and you agreeing with him says "mma is stupid". If I say boxing is stupid, are you just gonna sit there and go... well I guess he's right. Of course not, that would spark a debate.

Second, if you posted facts or arguments or questions, I would have responded, I dont know where this "you wouldnt have posted as usual" comes from, remind me again when you made a post directed at me and I didnt respond to it?

I dont need to reply over the internet to "stick my chest out" because I'd look pretty dumb doing that all alone in front of my computer screen. Get over yourself buddy, not everyone is trying to prove something over the internet.

You asked how you are on your high horse? All of you elitist boxing snobs are on your high horse. "That sir is indoubetedly a bar room brawl, dont you agree jeeves? Only thee peasents would partake in watching things of that sort"


Uke: "When you talk about the best MMA fighters, why is it that they are always not from MMA? Yoshida is a JUDO champion, not an MMA fighter."

Second of all you said the best MMA fighters arent MMA fighters they are the judoka, wrestlers, etc.. that I mentioned. Wrong dickface, if you look at all the best MMA fighters, Fedor, GSP, Hughes (although a very strong wrestler) BJ Penn, Nogueira, Lidell, Silva...they are all MMA trained. Yoshida usually gets fucked up, by the better MMA guys....

See my point fuckbag, MMA produces the best MMA fighters, my earlier point wasnt saying these were the best fighters, just that the best in the world at other sports (that arent sloppy or barbaric, or brawls) are competing in MMA. Doing quite well too, but not as good as the MMA guys.

[Uke]

That's what I mean by sticking your chest out. All the name calling and bravado for what? My original comment had nothing to do with you personally. Don't act like you're manning up here just because you finally got some hair on your balls, junior.

Fedor trained in judo, sambo and boxing way before there was MMA. He throws guys and hammers them once on the ground or uses his sambo training for the submission.

Nogueira is a BJJ stylist that began training in boxing with REAL boxers, not that MMA hand brawling shit that you see in the events. He wins his fights using BJJ, not MMA bullshit. He's only been boxing for short period of time and already he's got better hand skills than 98% of the guys in MMA. That tells you something.

Liddell is still a kickboxer. Just because he's learned how to deal with men who prefer to lay on their backs in fights doesn't make him MMA. You don't see him trying to pull guard. You don't see him doing the butt scoot because he's afraid to stand and fight.

Silva is a Chute Boxe/muay thai fighter. He's learned how to ground wrestle, but he is a thai boxer and wins most of his fights thai boxing. Chute Boxe is the real deal and what MMA patterns itself after. And even they acknowledge that their origin stems from thaiboxing. Sure, they later included BJJ for defense against fighters who used GJJ in "anything goes events", but they fight, they don't roll around on the ground for 15 minutes, which is probably the biggest reality negating element of MMA.

Crocop is a kickboxer and was before he ever did MMA.

That's the problem with kids like you. Just because someone comes to your sideshow events and participates you want to call them MMA fighters. And don't pretend that there is a high level of skill in MMA events outside of the outsourcing MMA has been doing. The only way MMA fighters can compete with highly trained strikers is by going to the ground. And most people in the world DO NOT find that exciting.

Want more evidence of that last statement?

Even in sports-entertainment like that WWE, the men who run the show know that the fan base would DRAMATICALLY decline if they just let the wrestlers simply wrestle. The majority of the show consists of the wrestlers on their feet doing what they do. No one tries to go to the ground until they are trying to end it with a finishing move, and even then that's only after they've given a display of stand-up striking and maneuvers.

We both know that there's skill to BJJ, but to 90% of the world its not entertaining to watch, and probably won't ever be. Boxing and kickboxing have been around for decades and are still going strong. We'll see how long MMA will be around.

BTW, this is the boxing forum. Just because I agree with Lampley's opinion doesn't mean you need to flock over here and start an MMA debate. I notice that you barely contribute on the boxing forums, so don't come here to now run your mouth for MMA reasons.

[7r14ngL3Ch0k3]

Fedor trained in judo, sambo and boxing way before there was MMA. He throws guys and hammers them once on the ground or uses his sambo training for the submission.

And your point is?

Nogueira is a BJJ stylist that began training in boxing with REAL boxers, not that MMA hand brawling shit that you see in the events. He wins his fights using BJJ, not MMA bullshit. He's only been boxing for short period of time and already he's got better hand skills than 98% of the guys in MMA. That tells you something.

What do you mean by "MMA bullshit"?

Liddell is still a kickboxer. Just because he's learned how to deal with men who prefer to lay on their backs in fights doesn't make him MMA. You don't see him trying to pull guard. You don't see him doing the butt scoot because he's afraid to stand and fight.

No fighters in mma today butt scoot around the ring anymore or even pull guard(unless theyre already in a grappling situation, like in a front head lock)

The only way MMA fighters can compete with highly trained strikers is by going to the ground. And most people in the world DO NOT find that exciting.

Uhh, no shit.

I find takedowns, especially throws, ground and pound, and guard passes, subs, etc very exciting. People will learn more about MMA and begin to like it more.

We'll see how long MMA will be around.

Way after youre dead, thats for sure.