Jim Lampley Arrested On Domestic Charges!

[Uke]

I find takedowns, especially throws, ground and pound, and guard passes, subs, etc very exciting. People will learn more about MMA and begin to like it more.

People will learn to like it? ROFL. People will learn more about it? LMAO. What's left to learn? Why must you over complicate it to make it seem that people don't know what it has to offer and that's why they don't watch?

What can't people figure out about mid-level kickboxing with elements of submission wrestling? What mystery passed that does MMA hold?

I think plenty of people find ground and pound exciting. Its the guard work and rolling all over the ground that people don't find exciting. And you can still see people butt scooting, and laying on their backs with their legs raised with their hands behind their heads when they get rocked.

I agree seeing submissions is exciting as well. It watching guys roll around endlessly trying to get one that doesn't hold people's attention. Most people come to MMA to see knockouts and blood, not to see the ground game and submissions. Most people don't care about leglocks if they can't see the damage. They don't care about armbars unless the guys comes out with a visibly broken arm. If it ain't a knockout or a stoppage due to a savage beating, people will lose interest quick.

Hey, I applaud the efforts these guys give. They train hard and fight hard. Its just not at the level of boxing. Its not even at the level of K-1. Oh and by the way, if these guys thought that they could walk into a boxing ring, knock out a couple of ranked guys and earn a title shot for a cool million, they'd have done it already. People can love and be loyal to whatever sport that they want, but at the end of the day cash rules, and everyone needs it.

[7r14ngL3Ch0k3]

If there is little to no action on the ground, the refs stand it up. In UFC, this happens more. In PRIDE, it barely happens because fighters are penalized with a 10% salary loss and theyre not even allowed to elbow unlike UFC. The elbowing makes fighters content with hanging out in their opponents guard trying to stall by creating enough action with little elbow strikes.

On the ground, in MMA, it is not just rolling around. They are striking, passing guard, scrambling, fighting. For the past few months ive watched every single MMA PPV live for free so i know what im talking about. Whenever there is stalling on the ground, or even from the clinch, the fighters are restarted standing.

I agree with you on the fact that its not MMA that is necessarily producing some great fighters, its whatever combat sport or discipline they did before they started MMA as the reason why theyre that good.

MMA is the fastest growing combat sport in the world. In Japan and other Asian countries, PRIDE, K-1(yes K-1 has an MMA competition), SHOOTO, DEEP, etc are all so big. In Europe its huge too. The U.S., is getting there.

Besides, i really dont care if the majority of the american population doesnt like MMA, because the fact is, is that the majority of the american population doesnt like combat sports period. Most people would rather watch guys dancing around on a field or court playing with a ball.

I like MMA because it represents combat sports. So does Boxing. I like MMA more so because i wrestle and i like to watch takedowns, throws, slams, and chokes. A good amount of people come out to our wrestling matches now and equate it as a fighting sport, probably cause of UFC. MMA will be around forever. Its not a fad, maybe the UFC might be, but not MMA.

[medic06]

But you have to admit that finding a good striker, one who understands the striking game as well as being able to hit hard, is a rarity in MMA. Most of the guys tend to throw wild punches hoping to land a lucky shot rather than using any kind of set up. So to someone well versed in boxing such as Lampley, MMA looks like sloppy garbage, which most of the standup is.

[Uke]

But you have to admit that finding a good striker, one who understands the striking game as well as being able to hit hard, is a rarity in MMA. Most of the guys tend to throw wild punches hoping to land a lucky shot rather than using any kind of set up. So to someone well versed in boxing such as Lampley, MMA looks like sloppy garbage, which most of the standup is.

Amen to that, brother.

[Uke]

I agree with you on the fact that its not MMA that is necessarily producing some great fighters, its whatever combat sport or discipline they did before they started MMA as the reason why theyre that good.

Well at least you admit that. Most of the MMA parasites here wouldn't even admit that much because they feel like they'd be losing ground in a race that doesn't even exist.

MMA is the fastest growing combat sport in the world. In Japan and other Asian countries, PRIDE, K-1(yes K-1 has an MMA competition), SHOOTO, DEEP, etc are all so big. In Europe its huge too. The U.S., is getting there.

The US had at one point become the biggest showcase for MMA. People felt that it was wild and dangerous and banned it. The US isn't catching up. They just didn't care for it and the politicians made it go away.

Besides, i really dont care if the majority of the american population doesnt like MMA, because the fact is, is that the majority of the american population doesnt like combat sports period. Most people would rather watch guys dancing around on a field or court playing with a ball.

Yet soccer is the most popular sport worldwide, followed by baseball. Hmmm?

I like MMA because it represents combat sports. So does Boxing. I like MMA more so because i wrestle and i like to watch takedowns, throws, slams, and chokes. A good amount of people come out to our wrestling matches now and equate it as a fighting sport, probably cause of UFC. MMA will be around forever. Its not a fad, maybe the UFC might be, but not MMA.

MMA might be around forever, but it won't be the big event that you'd like it to be. Its supposed to be some pseudo-gladiator event, without the weapons or the deaths. It'll faze out. Kickboxing even fazed out a bit until K-1 brought world-class athletes in to fight. Unless it is a matter of the best of the best fighting each other, its gets old quickly.

And the reason MMA has been getting old and tired quickly is because their answer to real, world-class aggression is to lay on their backs and roll around. Just watch the matches.

The truth is, if people want to see world-class newaza bouts people can and will watch the Abu Dhabi.

If they wanted to see world-class kickboxing they can and will watch K-1.

If they wanted to watch world-class pugilism people can and have been watching World Champion Boxing.

The sport that's been passed of as the supposed next evolution is pretty much what medic06 and Lampley said it was: a big, sloppy mess. But its trying, I'll give you that.

[7r14ngL3Ch0k3]

But you have to admit that finding a good striker, one who understands the striking game as well as being able to hit hard, is a rarity in MMA.

A rarity in MMA? Tell that to Gomi, Yamamoto, Hansen, Kawajiri, Melendez, St. Pierre, Fitch, Anderson Silva, Denis Kang, Misaki, Shogun, Wanderlei, Overeem, all of BTT(and ATT), Fedor, CC, Hunt, Aleks, and Kharitonov. Those are just some of the top guys. Alot of fighters in MMA come from boxing and kickboxing backgrounds anyway. Some of them just dont make it to the top because theyre lacking a solid grappling game.

Most of the guys tend to throw wild punches hoping to land a lucky shot rather than using any kind of set up.

Some guys do that. Most guys stay technical and use their boxing training. Fighters out of good camps train and spar with pro boxers. They use it in their fights. Look what Sanchez did to Riggs. Sanchez had been training with Oscar de la Hoya himself.

So to someone well versed in boxing such as Lampley, MMA looks like sloppy garbage, which most of the standup is.

Well, thats not all Lampley has said. Lampley has tried to preach to journalists and the media that Ultimate fighting(i hate that name) is a human cockfighting, that its so violent and dangerous, that these cage fighters come from bars, things of that nature, which is entirely untrue.

You also have to remember that the gloves that fighters use in MMA are 4 oz. Kicks are allowed, so ofcoarse its not gonna look like boxing. Some maneuvers in boxing like bobbing and weaving are not always safe to do because of the kicking, kneeing and grappling techniques youre allowed to use.

MMA does have some stand up brawls, but it also has the exact opposite of that too. It just depends on the fighters. And if one fighter doesnt have the best stand up, chances are he's a pretty damn good jiu jitsu player or something.

[7r14ngL3Ch0k3]

The US had at one point become the biggest showcase for MMA. People felt that it was wild and dangerous and banned it. The US isn't catching up. They just didn't care for it and the politicians made it go away.

No it didnt. SHOOTO and other Japanese MMA orgs(that follow the same rules as MMA today, unlike the early UFC's which didnt have rules like MMA today) were created before the early UFC ever came out. And the early UFC was wild and dangerous because there was such little rules. Now the rules are different, and safer for the fighters, and politicians recognize that. Now over 10 states have sanctioned it.

Unless it is a matter of the best of the best fightingeach other, its gets old quickly.

The best will and already are fighting eachother. You can count on that. Except now Cro Cop is in the UFC now, so he didnt get to fight Fedor again.

And the reason MMA has been getting old and tired quickly is because their answer to real, world-class aggression is to lay on their backs and roll around. Just watch the matches.

Nope, havent seen much of that lately, and i watch alottttt of MMA.

The sport that's been passed of as the supposed next evolution is pretty much what medic06 and Lampley said it was: a big, sloppy mess. But its trying, I'll give you that.

A sloppy mess? You wish. Face it, MMA is very technical.

[medic06]

A sloppy mess? You wish. Face it, MMA is very technical.

Nope, the grappling is still light years ahead of the striking game in most cases. But I am glad that decent strikers have started competing now. At one time it was preached that grappling beats striking hands down.