Originally posted by djcaldwell
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Has anyone fought decent chinese MA practitioners?
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Originally posted by npk9Yeah I'm in the middle weight catagory - 158lbs I want to see if can drop just little to get to weight below. I still don't know if I want to compete but I know that I'll at least show up. I'm in the middle of changing positions w/in my company and the hours are all going to be different.
Anyway, even if you compete we wouldn't be facing each other because there is no way in hell I'm getting to where you are!! But hope to see you there.
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Originally posted by djcaldwellCool Dude if you are going to come then shoot me an e-mail and I'll give my cell so when you get up there we can meet. Cardiovascular is going to determine if I compete or not. Today we were doing a lot of grappling, take downs and ground fighting (for all those "KF guys don't ground fight!" YES WE DO!!! lol) and I got winded so quickly. I have asthma so I have to build up some stamina again. 2-3 minutes in a ring is A LONG TIME when you can't breathe.
Anyway, even if you compete we wouldn't be facing each other because there is no way in hell I'm getting to where you are!! But hope to see you there.
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Originally posted by npk9Yeah I'm such a light weight in my school but I'm trying to work on my endurance. I don't know if there's going to be much of a difference between Amatuer A & B other then the ranking. Is this Friday and then Saturday or is it going to Sunday as well? That I can't figure. I just wish David Ross had more info - especially since its 3 months away.
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I fought my friend. He's done kung fu since he was just a wee lad.
And he was ####ing annoying. I think the psychological impact and sensory overload of fighting somebody trained in kung fu is vastly underestimated. All that hand waving still isn't a punch in the face, but it really can be sensory overload when everything is lighting off at once. Lot more movements for the brain to decipher.
If they have enough experience to apply that stuff DESPITE the variety, I think it's soem dangerous stuff. They also have the ability to fight using nontraditional angles/positions which are unexpected. OTOH, a solid defense seems to work well against them, reduce the vulnerable area and play it conservatively. You get tired eventually.
OTOH, he also couldn't grapple worth a damn. But equal sized opponents, I honestly don't know if a BJJ type could even get close enough to a squirrelly kung fu guy...strike on the move. Really quick and hard hitting.
If KF has grappling, that's news to me. But even if it didn't, there's no reason you couldn't mix in a decent grappling program on the side anyway...
Bashing KF for not having grappling is like bashing any striking art for not having grappling. Moronic. Of course it doesn't grapple...it's a STRIKING ART FOOL!
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Chinese martial arts have plenty of grappling. I'm not sure what is classified as "kung fu" but plenty of grappling stuff in over in china. They have thier old style stuff which resembles judo and stuff, i forget the damn name of the art but i have a good book on it. Also, From what I know 5 animals and probably plenty of other KF branches include grappling. Though, much of the grappling they teach is standup clinch type stuff (a lot of Chi Na stuff, check that out). KF groundwork is usually not sutff you can do in a ring, and its very fast and aims to end the fight very quickly, they dont roll around too much but they do have plenty of takedowns and joint locks, but its mixed in with very self-defence oriented violent stuff.
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also, there arent USUALLY martial arts that only deal with the ground or only deal with striking. BJJ in its realest for includes plenty of actual self-defence stuff which obviously includes striking ect.... And arts like Muay Thai do include some takedown/sweep stuff, though its limited. I dont consider boxing a "martial art" though it is a sport that incorperated plenty of valid hand striking skills.
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Originally posted by danfaggellaalso, there arent USUALLY martial arts that only deal with the ground or only deal with striking. BJJ in its realest for includes plenty of actual self-defence stuff which obviously includes striking ect.... And arts like Muay Thai do include some takedown/sweep stuff, though its limited. I dont consider boxing a "martial art" though it is a sport that incorperated plenty of valid hand striking skills.
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I've trained in Japanese Karate, Judo, and a little Muay Thai, but have not studied Kung Fu. After watching the DVD "Kung Fu with Master Wong" (on amazon.com). I was impressed by their use of weapons and conditioning training. I also learned that Kung Fu has various locking techniques.
Does anyone know how Kung Fu's grappling techniques compare to Judo and Jujitsu?
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