Has anyone fought decent chinese MA practitioners?

[medic06]

I've trained in Japanese Karate, Judo, and a little Muay Thai, but have not studied Kung Fu. After watching the DVD "Kung Fu with Master Wong" (on amazon.com). I was impressed by their use of weapons and conditioning training. I also learned that Kung Fu has various locking techniques.

Does anyone know how Kung Fu's grappling techniques compare to Judo and Jujitsu?

They compare quite well, although you rarely see them.

[jubaji]

They compare quite well, although you rarely see them.

Then how do you know they compare quite well?

[medic06]

Then how do you know they compare quite well?

Go do some research on them and you tell me how. . . .

[jubaji]

Go do some research on them and you tell me how. . . .

What I know was not the question. You made a claim, now back it up or shut up.

[shaolin-warrior]

I've trained in Japanese Karate, Judo, and a little Muay Thai, but have not studied Kung Fu. After watching the DVD "Kung Fu with Master Wong" (on amazon.com). I was impressed by their use of weapons and conditioning training. I also learned that Kung Fu has various locking techniques.

Does anyone know how Kung Fu's grappling techniques compare to Judo and Jujitsu?

Shaolin Chin na is a very devestatingly vicious martial art. Alot of pain involved to the person on the receiving end. I cant back this up with any amount of text from my p.c.. But here's a good reference for you to make your own oppinion. The name of the book is Comprehensive Applications of Shaolin Chin Na by Dr. Yang, Jwing-Ming. The name of the publisher is YMMA Publication Center, Rollindale, Massachusetts, 02131 phone: 1-800-669-8892 e-mail ymaa@aol.com. link www.ymaa.com
hope this helps.

[jubaji]

Shaolin Chin na is a very devestatingly vicious martial art. .

Chin na isn't really a 'martial art' (taken in the usual sense) in and of itself though.

[Kenpodog]

But here's a good reference for you to make your own oppinion. The name of the book is Comprehensive Applications of Shaolin Chin Na by Dr. Yang, Jwing-Ming. The name of the publisher is YMMA Publication Center, Rollindale, Massachusetts, 02131 phone: 1-800-669-8892 e-mail ymaa@aol.com. link www.ymaa.com
hope this helps.

Hi Shaolin-warrior, I'm not familiar with that book, but I have Analysis of SHAOLIN CHIN NA by Dr. Yang, Jwing-Ming and it's very informative. (ISBN 1-59439-000-2)
To Seize and Control should be a part of all martial arts.
I usually refer to it as passive Kenpo, it's all kenpo, it's all good!!

[shaolin-warrior]

Chin na isn't really a 'martial art' (taken in the usual sense) in and of itself though.

You are correct my friend it is not a martial art, it is a component of shaolin kempo.

[shaolin-warrior]

Hi Shaolin-warrior, I'm not familiar with that book, but I have Analysis of SHAOLIN CHIN NA by Dr. Yang, Jwing-Ming and it's very informative. (ISBN 1-59439-000-2)
To Seize and Control should be a part of all martial arts.
I usually refer to it as passive Kenpo, it's all kenpo, it's all good!!

I agree, the best thing about seize and control techniques is that you don't have to be bigger or stonger. It's a real equilizer.

[BoarSpear]

Chin na is a concept with rules of application...it is evident in most martial arts.
Because it is a concept it can be appplied in a variety of ways and styles yet still be "seizing and controlling" (chin na)

Chin na is simple, the rules are: its easier to strike than grab.

Its virtually impossible to control a resisting opponent purely with chin na without first stunning him or surprising him especially if he knows what you are trying to do.

once you secure a limb, twist bend, or twist, extend. complex movements can be built upon these theories.

Chin na can be as simple as stepping on your opponents foot

[medic06]

What I know was not the question. You made a claim, now back it up or shut up.

Maybe because I have seen a little bit of them. Like I said before, there are styles of grappling in every part of the world. If you really want to know about them then you would do the research. But obviously you're too busy being a close minded jackass.

[jubaji]

Like I said before, there are styles of grappling in every part of the world.

Yeah, I know. But you made a claim and now seem very reluctant to support it. I wonder why?

[medic06]

Yeah, I know. But you made a claim and now seem very reluctant to support it. I wonder why?

Because you really have no interest in the information. It would be pointless in providing information that is as readily available to me as it is to you. You are just looking for the chance to make some smart ass remark.

[jubaji]

Because you really have no interest in the information.

It seems like you are the one with no interest in it.

[medic06]

It seems like you are the one with no interest in it.

I have no interest in wasting time on someone who's just looking to make some smart assed remark.

you have internet access, google it if you are really interested.