UNBEATABLE anti-grappling technique

[gabbah]

What was the question again?

[jubaji]

Oh, and you didn't answer my question. Why, oh why Jubaji?

What question?

[gabbah]

Who? Yeah who.

[jubaji]

The video shows exactly what I was talking about.

Which is..................?



(this is the part where you try to change the point that you now realize you can't make)

[jubaji]

Polecat63,

.... Man, that's a weird nick... No matter... jubaji's not a troll, in fact he's actually got some insightful opinions... However, he does have some personality issues.

Your position in all of this IS peculiar. First, you slam the video, then say the technique would work. Then, you show a wrestling video... We were all expecting a WC video that showed the same technique "working." WE ALL KNOW WRESTLING DEFENSES WORK AGAINST TAKEDOWNS.

So what was your point?

Thank you very much! (well, except for that "personality issues" part)

My current theory is that when he realized he couldn't support his original position he decided to change the focus and pray no one would notice.

[polecat63]

Thank you very much! (well, except for that "personality issues" part)

My current theory is that when he realized he couldn't support his original position he decided to change the focus and pray no one would notice.

I never said a WC move, never mentioned it or suggested it. I said a wrestling move. W R E S T L I N G. Don't study WC, never have, prolly never will. I said I wrestled in HS and Jr. HS and was taught moves similar to what the video portrayed, and even tracked down a WRESTLING video to try and explain the WRESTLING move that i was talking about that looked SIMILAR to what the WC gut was TRYING to do.

Don't even know if what the guy did was even WC, see, 'cause I don't study it. Sorry if you thought I was talking about WC even though I never mentioned WC, I said wrestling. So if you were looking for a WC video from a guy that was talking about wrestling, then sorry for the confusion, even though I don't know why you were confused.

And pstevens, if he ain't a troll then what woul dyou call him???

[JkD187]

I never said a WC move, never mentioned it or suggested it. I said a wrestling move. W R E S T L I N G. Don't study WC, never have, prolly never will. I said I wrestled in HS and Jr. HS and was taught moves similar to what the video portrayed, and even tracked down a WRESTLING video to try and explain the WRESTLING move that i was talking about that looked SIMILAR to what the WC gut was TRYING to do.

Don't even know if what the guy did was even WC, see, 'cause I don't study it. Sorry if you thought I was talking about WC even though I never mentioned WC, I said wrestling. So if you were looking for a WC video from a guy that was talking about wrestling, then sorry for the confusion, even though I don't know why you were confused.

And pstevens, if he ain't a troll then what woul dyou call him???

I learned this same move in wrestling in high school....that wing chun dude is doing it totally wrong and even if he did it right he could never pull that off against someone resisting who dose not want to be taken down.That tech is called the flapjack if i remember correctly....never ever seen it pulled off though.

[jubaji]

I never said a WC move, never mentioned it or suggested it. I said a wrestling move. W R E S T L I N G. Don't study WC, never have, prolly never will. I said I wrestled in HS and Jr. HS and was taught moves similar to what the video portrayed, and even tracked down a WRESTLING video to try and explain the WRESTLING move that i was talking about that looked SIMILAR to what the WC gut was TRYING to do.

So, now we're back to the original proposition.


Just what did you see in either of the videos that you posted that was in any way similar to that mess at the beginning of this thread?

[polecat63]

So, now we're back to the original proposition.


Just what did you see in either of the videos that you posted that was in any way similar to that mess at the beginning of this thread?

So what you're saying is

I hate to quote myself, but it is appropriate here.....

Obviously these won't be good enough, and I'm sure for very good reasons. Like they were wearing the wrong colors, or their headgear was un-official or something brilliant like that. But here you go anyway.

It's like I'm Nastradamus or something. Freaky, ain't it? My job is done here. Good night, everybody!!

[jubaji]

So what you're saying is !!

No.........what I'm saying is "Just what did you see in either of the videos that you posted that was in any way similar to that mess at the beginning of this thread?"

Would you care to address that?

[polecat63]

No.........what I'm saying is "Just what did you see in either of the videos that you posted that was in any way similar to that mess at the beginning of this thread?"

Would you care to address that?

One would have to assume you're just playnig dumb, but I'm not so sure anymore. I'll humor you one more time. The guy in the video was attempting a block and a sprawl on someone going for a double leg take down. He failed at that attempt (well, both did actually).I the said if what he was TRYING to do was done right it could have worked. You then said "I know you are , but.." oh no, wait. You said what could work, then I said the block etc.., then you said how about a video, then I said okay, but that won't be enough, then I gave videos, and you said that isn't enough and where is the WC, then I said I never said WC, I said wrestling, then you said what about the vids, and I said it was what I decribed and said they were and then you had some sort of brain anomoly and we started all over again.

So, like I said. You got everything you asked for, and everything that I said I would so, but you still aren't happy. I feel for ya, man, but you keep moving the mark and I'm tired of dancing with with someone with two left feet. Have a great day, and I'll see you at the next earth shattering. all important, life altering forum debate. You hang in there. little buckaroo!

[shaolin-warrior]

If every thread on this forum was conducted like this, what a sad, sad reflection it would be on us as martial artist. I thought the purpose of a forum was for people to get together and share comments and opinions. I hate to editorialize, but wouldn't it be better to concentrate on the quality of posts rather than the quantity. You guys should be ashamed.........

[jubaji]

The guy in the video was attempting a block and a sprawl on someone going for a double leg take down. He failed at that attempt (well, both did actually).I the said if what he was TRYING to do was done right it could have worked. You then said "I know you are , but.." oh no, wait. You said what could work, then I said the block etc.., then you said how about a video, then I said okay, but that won't be enough, then I gave videos, and you said that isn't enough and where is the WC, then I said I never said WC, I said wrestling, then you said what about the vids, and I said it was what I decribed and said they were and then you had some sort of brain anomoly and we started all over again.

First of all, the guy in the video was not attempting to sprawl and you did not even claim that he was. You merely said that what he was doing in the video could work. I then asked you to support this by showing me a video of him doing what he did in the video in a manner that would be likely to work. You attempted in the most transparent of ways to innoculate yourself against your inevitable failure by saying "whatever I show you won't be good enough! " as if this statement would allow you to post anything from the most general comments on defense, to a low-single counter that even the most drug-addled mind could not possibly relate to the first clip on this thread, to a dancing elephant if that was all you could find! Sure enough, you produced two clips that could not possibly be related to the first video. In fact, they were so completely unrelated to the first video that your intention in posting them was unclear. Then, someone else (not me) agreed that you made no sense in what you had posted. That someone else (not me) was expecting a WC clip. That would have been fine with me if it had gone any distance towards making your point. You responded by claiming that you were focusing on wrestling, which is great as that is what I was expecting in the first place, but which brings us back to the very obvious fact that the wrestling clips you posted in no way relate to the first video.

But let's be honest. You know that you have failed to make your point, and you are now in the process of damage control. As with everything else you have attempted on this thread, you are failing miserably. I suspect you will now keep trying and keep failing.

[jubaji]

If every thread on this forum was conducted like this, what a sad, sad reflection it would be on us as martial artist. I thought the purpose of a forum was for people to get together and share comments and opinions. I hate to editorialize, but wouldn't it be better to concentrate on the quality of posts rather than the quantity. You guys should be ashamed.........

You know, you make a very good point. On the other hand, go **** yourself

[shaolin-warrior]

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