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  • #16
    A Chinese friend of mine here in Thailand,who studied bagua and some other style I have never heard of in China,says bajiquan is a very good martial art for self defense,however I do not know much about it.I am an old guy so maybe this is not for me but I would like to know about it.The video was good and I thank the man who provided it but as other people said here it did show a really big guy beating on a kid who did not look very skilled.Although there arre many Chinese people here I have not met one who does bajiquan.Is it a rare style and are there any worthwhile training dvds or books Thank you

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    • #17
      Originally posted by ltindiandaeng View Post
      A Chinese friend of mine here in Thailand,who studied bagua and some other style I have never heard of in China,says bajiquan is a very good martial art for self defense,however I do not know much about it.I am an old guy so maybe this is not for me but I would like to know about it.The video was good and I thank the man who provided it but as other people said here it did show a really big guy beating on a kid who did not look very skilled.Although there arre many Chinese people here I have not met one who does bajiquan.Is it a rare style and are there any worthwhile training dvds or books Thank you
      I'm fairly certain Adam Hsu has a series on Baji and Piqua.

      This video gives a pretty good look at the flavor of Baji. Attack preferences, ranges and timings vary with schools but the power generation that defines the system is always the same everywhere.

      YouTube - This is Baji Quan

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      • #18
        Here's a clip that contains the best Baji form and application I've seen on video.

        YouTube - An Wushu - Ba Ji Quan

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        • #19
          his video was very interesting.What is the difference between bajiquan and baguazhang.I believe bagua zhang is more common.At least I have seen it mentioned in magazines and such more often..

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          • #20
            Originally posted by ltindiandaeng View Post
            his video was very interesting.What is the difference between bajiquan and baguazhang.I believe bagua zhang is more common.At least I have seen it mentioned in magazines and such more often..
            Because both arts start with Ba (8) people often assume they're similar but they're completely different arts. Baji uses the fist, the elbow and the shoulder as it's primary weapons while Baqua uses the 8 palms. Baqua is a purely internal martial art which draws power from it's stepping. The majority of Baqua is practiced through circle walking although there are several linear forms. Baji is very hard and external by itself, however Baji is most always paired with Piqua which is extremely soft.
            In a nutshell baji is based on the drop step and combines downward and forward energy for striking, Piqua is used to close the gap and makes use of the upward and inward movements for defensive application as the gap is closed and the downward and outward power is released into the opponent. Baqua uses the combination of those concepts as one idea and attack.

            Here's a video of An demoing his Baqua for a comparison of the two arts from the same vessel.

            YouTube - An Wushu - Ba Gua Zhang

            Baji tends to have linear applications the majority of the time and while they do have throws they aren't what it's known for.
            Baqua usually applies circular applications and is known for palm strikes, standing arm breaks and throws.

            Overlap between internal arts is common, you will see that An uses fist in a Xing Yi line because its more combat effective to use the straight hand and foot line of Xing Yi at the timing point after using the circular hand and foot of Baqua to clear the initial attack. All the internal arts are related, Tai Chi is the mother, Baqua the daughter and Xing Yi the son. Each of the arts retain elements of the other family members. The simple way to "read" the arts is by the combination of hand and foot.
            Tai Chi is usually expressed as circular hand, straight foot, or straight foot, circular hand. Baqua is expressed as circular hand and foot while Xing Yi is straight hand, straight foot. As a side note they are all built on top of Shuai Chaio which is expressed by opposite hand opposite foot attacks which disrupts the root of the opponent upon contact.

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            • #21
              An JianQiu Demos Baguazhang

              A couple more Baqua applications for comparison.


              YouTube - An JianQiu Demos Baguazhang

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              • #22
                Well... This thread sure turned into something. Took a couple years...

                I guess we just never know what will turn up next.

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