Kung Fu and Grappling?

The fault lies with YOU.

No, it lies with men like you, and that is the truth. I only seek to encourage healthy discussion and hope to share and have others share techniques and info about Martial arts. But when men go and lie about my background and techniques and attack on every point. That is where the problem is and the fault.

[jubaji]

The fault lies with YOU.

To all,

Ben Grimm Quote,

"Just shut up and DIE!!!!"

Another wonderful human being.......

Is this how you teach your children or child in life? is this a good example for others? Sounds very grim to me.

Now Kung Fu has grappling. TigerClaw/KFM/LARPer has used the term Kung Fu incorrectly. Kung Fu means hard work or skill gained through hard work. Therefore a Shuai Jiao (Chinese Wrestling) stylist or an Eagle Claw stylist which uses Qinna (Joint Locks) are using different forms of grappling. But Jujutsu for example is Kung Fu because if done correctly it relates to the above definition.

While the words Kung Fu or Gung Fu, mean hard work or to achieve through hard work etc. The term has also come to mean any Chinese martial arts. This is how I use it. And yes, eagle claw , and Mantis and Monkey etc have techniques that deal with grappling and ground fighting etc. As do many other styles.

[Ben Grimm]

Shi de. Shen jing bing. Ta zhen de you wenti.

[Tom Yum]

wo juede zhege shagua you bing, chang chang dou shuo yi yang de shuohua. zhege ren you keneng shi matbla .

bing you bing, wo bu zhiirdao. Ta keneng shir Matbla hai shi zhe yang de ren...

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[Ben Grimm]

Now Kung Fu has grappling. TigerClaw/KFM/LARPer has used the term Kung Fu incorrectly. Kung Fu means hard work or skill gained through hard work. Therefore a Shuai Jiao (Chinese Wrestling) stylist or an Eagle Claw stylist which uses Qinna (Joint Locks) are using different forms of grappling. But Jujutsu for example is Kung Fu because if done correctly it relates to the above definition.

[ClaytonOT]

Yes this is the fool that got chased off the DL.

You'll notice in nearly all of his posts he emphasizes the importance of throat strikes, eye gouges, and groin strikes.

[Ben Grimm]

nimen ye zhidao. tebie hao!

[Bjjexpertise@be]

Ta bu shir pian ren. Anzhao wushu Ta de nengli daduo shir xifang shuaijiao, zhongguo shuaijiao. Ni yingai cha black belt zazhi, keneng jian ta de zhaopian...

wo juede zhege shagua you bing, chang chang dou shuo yi yang de shuohua. zhege ren you keneng shi matbla .

[Ben Grimm]

The chump will never learn.

[sunwukung]

Hi again KFM,
so now you've posted the same question elsewhere, can you see there is a broad consensus of opinion regarding this issue?

[Tom Yum]

Your on track but the only reason the MMA guys leave those places open is because there is no danger of that happening. I myself have do it in MMA spars.

as for "If your on the ground, you need to immediately strike hard. The head is the main target. take out the eyes, the breathing apparatus, the throat, the nerve groups". Not always a good idea. You may get made into a monkey. But what your talking about is tried and true Ground and pound. An example of both.

YouTube - Fedor Emelianenko vs Hong Man Choi

if the other guy is any good he will also strike and move into a submission move ASAP.

Good point, if you add those nasty strikes into your training, they would build your ground arsenal - but having been eye struck or throat struck will create openings for reversals/escapes. MMA fighters who have been accidentally eye gouged are out of commission for a good minute or two, think BJ Penn vs. Hughes.

Ok,

but I think when you say,
'not always a good idea". I think we can agree that any technique might not always be a good idea considering the situation. There are always variables.

later

[FLMKane]

Your on track but the only reason the MMA guys leave those places open is because there is no danger of that happening. I myself have do it in MMA spars.

as for "If your on the ground, you need to immediately strike hard. The head is the main target. take out the eyes, the breathing apparatus, the throat, the nerve groups". Not always a good idea. You may get made into a monkey. But what your talking about is tried and true Ground and pound. An example of both.

YouTube - Fedor Emelianenko vs Hong Man Choi

if the other guy is any good he will also strike and move into a submission move ASAP.