Kung Fu and MMA

[Uke]

belly of the beast

Yayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy!!!!

I'm amazed at your progress with ju-bark!-ji, DJForest.

You just scratch the mongrel's belly and he rolls right over.

Impressive.

We may have to change his name from ju-bark!-ji to pavlov's moody b!tch.

[TTEscrima]

Hey, like I said I was interested in his techniques. I also saw his weak high stance. but remember this man has developed his style to suit his movements. It is easy for us to poke at him, but perhaps not so easy to overcome him.

Interested in techniques not based in reality? The high leaning away will result in his applications NOT working when compliance through fear or respect are absent. "His style" does not follow principle or theory of any known CMA. Due to these reasons, those aren't legitimate applications, many of the times the defender threw himself.

It seems to me if you'd seen a man who could whip 10 men, you'd hardly be impressed by a man who couldn't whip one boxer.

He relied on the flower (flashy/pretty/"looks" like KF) and had very little fruit (sustenance).

And there are many different people I could point out about their techniques. But like I said, the you tube is not the be all and end all of recorded kung fu Knowledge.

I couldn't agree more that it isn't the be all end all of recorded knowledge of anything except perhaps stupidity for its own sake. And there are FAR better examples of "good" KF than the ones you chose to demonstrate what you thought effective KF looked like. Here's a hint, "good" KF doesn't need to "look" like anything except a fight. A general rule is, if its "pretty" it doesn't work. Fighting applications aren't flashy, they're either rooted in the basic's done VERY well or you're buying your own bullshit. Without a proper root, NO "Martial art/Style" is functional. To say he demonstrated a LACK OF a functional root is an understatement, especially for someone try to incorporate Shuai Chaio into his "style".

How about we do this, lets leave the MMA part out of this, leave their forum, lets go to the CMA forum where this belongs, and discuss your ideas, concepts theories and favorite videos that you think show good KF.

BTW, since you're a KF guy, your shit talking belongs in the CMA forums, unless... you're just looking for confrontation, in which case, trust me, you can find PLENTY of that in the CMA forums.

[TTEscrima]

If it was so easy and only took a year of training, he'd have done it.

Yeah I don't recall that boxing and wrestling are are what he is known for dedicating his life to. He believed a year of boxing and wresting were all you needed to defeat a "martial artist" so he dedicated his life to "being" a martial artist ...makes sense... not.

[TTEscrima]

KOTF, the Epicurus quote in your sig line is, classic.

[Uke]

Yeah I don't recall that boxing and wrestling are are what he is known for dedicating his life to. He believed a year of boxing and wresting were all you needed to defeat a "martial artist" so he dedicated his life to "being" a martial artist ...makes since... not.

Hehehe ... you picked that up too?

[kingoftheforest]

KOTF, the Epicurus quote in your sig line is, classic.

Yeah actually it is classic lol.

[TigerClaw]

Yayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy!!!!

Lets comment on that quote you posted. In the quote it talks about evil and why God doesn't get rid of it etc. If God was going to get rid of all the evil in the world right now he would have to destroy all of us immediately for we are all evil and have all done evil. But he is patient waiting for men to turn to him. The very fact that we are still on this earth should be evidence of His benevolence and kindness.

C.S Lewis said something along this line. (by the way C.S Lewis was once an atheist and then turned to God). He said that God wispers in our conscience, and shouts to us in our pain, Pain is Gods megaphone to rouse a deaf world.

Pain and evil shows us that everything is not alright in the world and should cause us to consider our lives and who we really are. Then look outside of ourselves for help.

I know, I Know, I am talking about religion again. But I was responding to a attacking post in here by the kingofthelittleforest.

[TTEscrima]

But I was responding to a attacking post in here by the kingofthelittleforest.

What about responding to the posts about your martial art?

BTW, I find it interesting you chose to add "little" to KOTF as though it were an insult, I'd think any actual practitioner of the CMA's would have avoided that.

[jubaji]

Someone who has superior attributes isn't always the superior combatant.
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And every pathetic, clumsy, out of shape idiot in the world clings to the notion that this fantasy lets them off the hook.

[kingoftheforest]

What about responding to the posts about your martial art?

BTW, I find it interesting you chose to add "little" to KOTF as though it were an insult, I'd think any actual practitioner of the CMA's would have avoided that.

Hell yeah! Call me king of Shoalin!

Apparently TC is even to lazy to pay attention to the bad Kun-Fu movies he gets his skills from.


Add one more to the list of ignore.

[TigerClaw]

Hell yeah! Call me king of Shoalin!

Apparently TC is even to lazy to pay attention to the bad Kun-Fu movies he gets his skills from.


Add one more to the list of ignore.

Can God make a rock so big that he cannot lift?

The answer is yes, he made your heart and it is hard so he will not move it unless you are willing.

You can try to ignore the truth but......

The actions one takes are answered by consequences waiting at their conclusion. There are no exceptions.

[TigerClaw]

What about responding to the posts about your martial art?

BTW, I find it interesting you chose to add "little" to KOTF as though it were an insult, I'd think any actual practitioner of the CMA's would have avoided that.

I used the word little, because his forest is indeed little, the larger forest that is waiting for him fills universe and beyond. It is within a whole different kingdom. He is isolated in a small portion of it and that prison is within his heart and mind,

[TigerClaw]

So anyway, back to the discussion,

1. I think as we have shown by the experts and sound reasoning, that Kung Fu survival combat and sport MMA are two very different systems. Can we all say yes?

2. Also that Kung Fu has a long history of development and combat readiness? Can we all say yes?

3. And that Kung Fu is a wonderful fighting style that every single martial artist in the planet should seriously consider when thinking of self defense? Can we all say yes?

4. And though many martial arts systems are good and useful for combat, kung fu may be one of the most comprehensive systems on the planet? Can we all say yes?

5. And lastly that those who may poke at kung fu as soft and useless in combat really do not understand what they are talking about? Can we all say yes?

If you cannot say yes to any of these points, please share your reasoning with us.

[Uke]

And every pathetic, clumsy, out of shape idiot in the world clings to the notion that this fantasy lets them off the hook.

What notion were you clinging to when the big mf'er slapped the five o'clock shadow off of your face?

a: You needed to get angry in order to "Hulk up"?

b: You like to get a little S&M in before you suplex knife attackers?

or was it

c:

People who can accurately recount all the details of their fights weren't actually there.

[jubaji]

How's your anti-conditioning program going, pUke? Are you out of shape enough to be really, really deadly yet?