Lets divide the real CMA from the Fakes

[clfsean]

No, I did not insult him, I made constructive criticism, not insult. I merely pointed out what I saw. I think I also compliment him as well, I can't remember fully or even check, because some childish banning took place in there.

You don't criticize elders for anything. He's been practicing & teaching longer than you've been breathing!! If you have something to say like that, you don't!!! He & others from his generation have forgotten more about fighting than you'll hope to know.

[TigerClaw]

You don't criticize elders for anything. He's been practicing & teaching longer than you've been breathing!! If you have something to say like that, you don't!!! He & others from his generation have forgotten more about fighting than you'll hope to know.

By the way, to merely point out a few things to CLFdevil (i think that is who i was talking to) is also different than saying it to the man himself. I most likely would not say anything to him in person unless he asked me. I do have some manners. And you seem to forget I really love Choy Li Fut Kung Fu.

[clfsean]

By the way, to merely point out a few things to CLFdevil (i think that is who i was talking to) is also different than saying it to the man himself.

It doesn't matter... it's not said. Period.

I most likely would not say anything to him in person unless he asked me. I do have some manners.

I'd pay to see that...

And you seem to forget I really love Choy Li Fut Kung Fu.

I doubt it. I've come across no one as secretive & flakey as you in all my dealings with CLF family around the country & globe.

[TigerClaw]

It doesn't matter... it's not said. Period.



I'd pay to see that...



I doubt it. I've come across no one as secretive & flakey as you in all my dealings with CLF family around the country & globe.

Normally I wouldn't be hidding anything, but because of some people in these forums, I am going to play things close to the chest.

You should be able to tell this about me, I have posted pics videos, pics of some of my instructors flyers etc .Not a secretive as some.

I would like to see you do a form, or post pics or techniques.

By the way, do you think that Choy Li Fut has answers for defense against grapplers? If so, what?

[HuSanYan]

Chi

My powers of Chi are such a force to be reckoned with that I could very easily beat you all without even a single physical blow.

ben grimm & clfsean, tigerclaw could easily beat your punk asses any day of the week.

[Tom Yum]

My powers of Chi are such a force to be reckoned with that I could very easily beat you all without even a single physical blow.

ben grimm & clfsean, tigerclaw could easily beat your punk asses any day of the week.

http://www.youtube.com/v/XSp7eWBvpPE&hl=en&fs=1

[clfsean]

Normally I wouldn't be hidding anything, but because of some people in these forums, I am going to play things close to the chest.

Fine... PM it then.

You should be able to tell this about me, I have posted pics videos, pics of some of my instructors flyers etc .Not a secretive as some.

An old tshirt & a Photoshop flyer doesn't speak to much.

I would like to see you do a form, or post pics or techniques.

Pics don't do anything. They don't capture motion & intent.

Anything else is quid pro quo.

By the way, do you think that Choy Li Fut has answers for defense against grapplers? If so, what?

It has some & things can be found if they're looked for depending on your idea of a grappler.

[clfsean]

http://www.youtube.com/v/XSp7eWBvpPE&hl=en&fs=1

Your right... Yellow Bamboo rulez!

[Ben Grimm]

HuSanYan. You're full of it. TigerClaw you have no WuDe.

[Tant01]

HuSanYan. You're full of it. ....

Yeah but he FUNNY! LOL

Enjoy,

[Ben Grimm]

Then I'll enjoy his sense of humour, hehe.

[TigerClaw]

I think part of the main issue here, is that many do not understand what a Kung Fu fighters techniques look like, really, I am speaking of many of the grapplers o wrestlers , or those with limited knowledge in others styles of even limited knowledge in Kung Fu. .They may have some knowledge, but like I asked before have they ever seen or even imagined a fighter taking a low unicorn stance and a intricate hand guard in a MMA fight. The answer is no, and so they speak from what they do not know or understand, often.

I also think that some have gust given up on their kung fu as a complete system. This may happen for many different reasons. They may not have been taught ground fighting in their system, or they watch MMA fights on TV and see the full contact fighting and think this is different than the forms we do and the sparring we do. Or they have fought grapplers and lost. But I am only encouraging those who study Kung Fu and those who are interested in it, to consider the vast resources available to them n the Kung Fu world.

And by the way I do like many things I see in jujitsu and nijitsu.

But I think the stress in on how do we fight on the ground, instead of lets find thousands of techniques from our Kung fu styles that can be used to avoid being taken to the ground and to stop the attacker in his approach. Or lets find the many techniques that can help us escape quickly when taken to the ground. Or a third one, lets develop many techniques of kung fu for the ground position. And finally, in this order, lets incorporate some jujitsu and ninjitsu techniques that we adapt with kung fu principles and other clawing, Chin Na, animals styles etc

[Ben Grimm]

Have you ever faced an opponent, I mean a real opponent on the street that is so intent on taking you out that they don't care what you try. Like the punk that tried to steal my wife's handbag. I did the old classic ground and pound not even giving him a chance to recover. Why, because of my intent and ferocity. I was so pissed off and I didn't care about his safety or my own. I didn't think about getting thrashed, I just wanted to destroy him. Try fighting somebody with that type of intent. Or better yet try to fight someone on Speed or Angel Dust and you'll find that all of the nonsense you just spouted won't work.

[TigerClaw]

Have you ever faced an opponent, I mean a real opponent on the street that is so intent on taking you out that they don't care what you try. Like the punk that tried to steal my wife's handbag. I did the old classic ground and pound not even giving him a chance to recover. Why, because of my intent and ferocity. I was so pissed off and I didn't care about his safety or my own. I didn't think about getting thrashed, I just wanted to destroy him. Try fighting somebody with that type of intent. Or better yet try to fight someone on Speed or Angel Dust and you'll find that all of the nonsense you just spouted won't work.

Yes it will work and has.

By the way when you say,

"because of my intent and ferocity. I was so pissed off and I didn't care about his safety or my own. I didn't think about getting thrashed, I just wanted to destroy him."

I believe that is the wrong attitude of a martial artist. You have no control over your spirit. Like I said before when I said you were the worst kind of martial artist, this confirms it more. Don't get all angry and in a huff for me telling you this. Just consider it and reflect.

[Ben Grimm]

You have no idea, do you. So if somebody tries to hurt or steal something from your wife, you'll just say let it be. I'm not that weak. Protecting my family comes first. In terms of people who hurt my family. Kill'em all and let God sort them out. To you I might just be a scrapper, but to my family I'm a man and their protector.

In a real fight, which you've never been in, you don't have time to care about your oponent's safety because if you do, then you're only going to get hurt clown.