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Many of us on DL had the same problem until he just got out of hand. He didn't last long on BudoSeek either.
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Originally posted by Tom Yum View PostI deducted rep from Tiger Claw, but haven't deducted from anyone else.
Trying to find the good in the man's posts, but its impossible.
That's pretty much where I am. This thread makes me think of medieval times when everyone would take the day off, get drunk and watch a hanging whenever a condemned criminal went to the gallows. I've got my beer and red rep. is the rotten fruit that I get to throw at the condemned
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Guest repliedOriginally posted by Ben Grimm View PostNobody believes your garbage any more. And a side note. If you are going to write my last name, spell it with a capital G. It's Grimm, not grimm!!!!!!!
All you have to do is say , "sorry for attacking you so much and so unjustly, I will consider your grappling arguments and if I disagree I will tell you why in detail and with explanations, instead of just calling you names and showing disrespect"
That would be so simple and show that you had some character.
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Nobody believes your garbage any more. And a side note. If you are going to write my last name, spell it with a capital G. It's Grimm, not grimm!!!!!!!
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Guest repliedOriginally posted by Tom Yum View PostYou contradicted yourself earlier by suggesting that a grappler would shoot in and grab the waist - then said that you knew they didn't do that. That's a bit wishy washy. If you have something real to say about gong fu then come out and say it, rather than behind a bunch of theoretical explanations..
I have found since being in these forums that real kung fu is seldom understood. Yes there are some real Kung Fu practitioners and yes they have good understanding. But for the most part many do not.
I am not saying that aboiut you however, at this point. You seem to have some qualities that can allow us to have a discussion in a resonable way. But I fear that you and othes who just see al the garbage spewed out by some like Ben Grimm Jubaji and some others may actually believe them and be turned against me.
I wait for actual discussion on what I said, not just shut up that won't work stuff. I know it works and I practice and teach many things that work in combat. ASnd no, I don't care if some don't believe me, my pursuing them and calling them to account for their words had other purposes. I not only want to discuss martial arts with them but also help in other ways.
"but like the needle that pulls the thread through the torn garment it will hurt at first, then the hole can be repaired.
(TigerClaw 2008, no fortune cookie stuff)
"If there is a hole in the garment the cold air can get in."
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Guest repliedOriginally posted by Mr. Arieson..But of course, since you are the troll-du-jour, nothing anyone says will make a difference to you. I personally think you are a liar, a fake and a troll. You are no kung fu teacher. Pretty much everything you are saying is wrong.
You know, your arguing ability is very weak. To just say to a person, "you are wrong" without any real substantial argument is a childish stance and useless. it only exposes you as a immature person who has negative biases towards me and who has been swayed by the other liars in here.
By the way I have taught many people and I still am a Kung Fu teacher and have been for many years. All this talk with men like you and other wrestlers has motivated me more to put together a book for other Kung Fu practitioners about the Kung Fu answer to grappling and the difference of sport fighting and survival combat fighting.
As far as anything others say making a difference. it will if they talk clearly and politely and with intelligence and have an actual argument, instead of childish weak mocking words that say and mean nothing.
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Exactly. Everything has to be tested time and time again under realistic conditions. LARPers wouldn't do that though. After all, in the movies the good guy always wins. LOL
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Originally posted by TigerClaw View PostI don't believe so. If a person is unfamiliar with the thousands of techniques in a Kung Fu fighters arsenal, then they must admit that there is many things they are unaware of. I have only mentioned a few of them.
Like I said before, I believe that Chinese Kung Fu is one of the most comprehensive fighting systems in the world and in the various styles there is answers for almost every possible attack.
But I have been focusing in the last little while on the approach of a grappler, how they step in and use their stance distribution, how they telegraph their wight and the angles of their arms and shoulders.
By the way, in the striking area, there is none that compare to kung Fu in my opinion.
Like I said, I think shuaijiao and qinna have alot to offer - but if its practiced through demonstrations and discussions, it doesn't mean squat. You have to do shuaijiao and do qinna with enough realism so that you can find out what works and what doesn't.
Nuff said.
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Guest repliedOriginally posted by jubaji View PostIt is obvious to everyone here that you do not. Repeating your ignorance over and over just makes you look more and more like a headcase.
But you on the other hand have no real argument except mean spirited attacks and cursing. I think all can see that you are the one with absolutely nothing to say.
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Guest repliedOriginally posted by jubaji View PostYou don't "believe" so because you don't know what you are talking about. People who do know what they are talking about have explained this to you time and time again but you are stuck in Rain Man mode again.
"telegraph"
I know what I am talking about. But you, I wonder if you have ever really understood Kung Fu and the massive amount of information that is available in the Kung Fu world.
Also, about "telegrahing", that is a part of our study in Kung Fu, to watch the opponents telegrahing of his position and intent. this is very important. many times fighters expose what they are going to do way before they do it. But if you really understood combat you would be aware of this instead of just rolling your eyes.
And no one has yet shown any good argument against what I have said or taught. By the way I have the experts on my side remember. You have a few men who have swallowed the sport fighting, rules fighting, show and think that that is the "ULTIMATE" fighting.
Truthfully I am not impressed by most of what I see in the MMA fights I have watched. That is my own opinion.
I believe what has happened in part is that the techniques from some other styles have been stripped down to their basic rudiments and the more advanced complex so called flowery moves of many styles have been rejected. Often this can happen when men do not practice hard, they can get lazy in the perfecting of a technique or of developing forms etc. It takes many years to perfect certain fighting styles. but if men have the idea that they are going to just use the most effective and simple strait foreward moves from a style and disregard the rest. This creates a simplistic raw basic fighting style. But Kung Fu does have some very complex and advanced type of movements. they do work, but only if they are perfected.
But to be fair, many of the jujitsu fighting techniques that are still remaining. But as in any more advanced techniques we don't see alot of the more complex Jujitsu by many.
Occasionally I see men who have more skill and technique. But usually the reason I am unimpressed, is that many of the fighters look just like street brawlers who have some kick boxing experience. This is just my opinion, and everyone has a right to their own opinion.
It is kind of like math, you can learn basic math and it will help you with many things in life, but more complex math is needed in other areas and few have this skill. The people who do not do the more complex math, might say, why should we learn that stuff it is of no use to us.
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