MMA Sport fighting and Kung Fu combative, the real difference...

[jubaji]

Of course anyone can poke an eye, but the kung fu guy will have specifically trained to do these techniques so he can do it better.

No, the person who has actually done it will do it better, the person who can get into/control the position to do it will do it better, the person who has pretended to do it or 'imagined' doing it (often at the expense of gaining real skills and experience) will likely just get his ass broke and look like a dope.

[Ben Grimm]

Gouging an eye out would be more easily performed while grappling since there is more control over your opponent. Oh wait.... TigerClown doesn't believe in grappling.

[Tant01]

familiar ring to it...

Gouging an eye out would be more easily performed while grappling since there is more control over your opponent. Oh wait.... TigerClown doesn't believe in grappling.

I think I made the exact same point in some other thread...

[7r14ngL3Ch0k3]

i dare anyone to try gougeing out the eye of a boxer or someone who's well trained in striking.

[KenshiRyan]

Of course anyone can poke an eye, but the kung fu guy will have specifically trained to do these techniques so he can do it better. Some like poking an eye are obviously easy that don't take much training to be able to do effectively, but others are different.

Lol so because the kung fu practitioner practices eye gouging thin air he has the edge over me? riiiight..


I dont need to be showen how to stick a finger in somones eye in order for it to be "effective", I think once its in their eye socket mate its effective enough, what would make it more effective would be getting taught how to get into the position to make such an attack; this would be something the likes of bjj or wrestling or other sports fighting.

What are these other attacks to vital areas that arent as easy as poking someone in the eye?

[Ben Grimm]

Yeah, I know you made the same point. But for someone who can't quite grasp it. Not mentioning any names. I think it needs to be repeated again.

[TigerClaw]

i dare anyone to try gougeing out the eye of a boxer or someone who's well trained in striking.

It is not that difficult. I had a aggressive attacker who had done kick boxing and other martial arts attack me and I blocked his first two fast strikes and then snapped my hand with the fingers hitting him, hard, just above his eye. In real combat the fight would have been over at that point.

Another person was sparing with me a long time ago and i used an elusive snake technique where one hand shoots down to the groin area and the other goes back up to the eye. I hit them right in the eye and felt my fingers goes right back into the eye. It was a horrible feeling. Fortunately the person was alright after.

It is not that hard to counter and snap at the eyes. There are many set up techniques for such a attack.

[jubaji]

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[KenshiRyan]

It is not that difficult.

And that is why a "sports fighter" can do the same.

In real combat the fight would have been over at that point.

You seem to have no real experience of an ACTUAL fight.

[Ben Grimm]

TigerClown, how long did the boxer train for? 1 lesson? You wouldn't be able to get your hands near my eyes at all. I've challenged you before. You can use all of your fancy BS, and I'll just box you. No WC, No Grappling, just boxing and you still chickened out. It's because you know a boxer would knock you out. And I've even offered to go to Canada to do it. So you can't just say I'm spouting shit behind a keyboard.

[TigerClaw]

And that is why a "sports fighter" can do the same.



You seem to have no real experience of an ACTUAL fight.

I have had experience and you seem to have no knowledge of techniques that attack the eyes. Or you wouldn't say what you said.

[-FIGJAM-]

Tiger have you ever been put in the anaconda lock? Bloody hard to do somethin to someone when you pass out in a couple of seconds when performed correctly.

If all MMA gyms are like mine, then you train for practicality in the ring and the streets. Kung Fu i dont know about, never studied it and never seen a "master" or whatever you call them in action. But i know myself, if i dont train 100% every time, perform everything to completion then when it comes to fight time, im not at 100%.

You might know how to kill a man by looking at them, but at the end of the day, id prefer to KO someone in the street rather then kill them or rip their eye out, etc etc, because doing that in my country, as a trained fighter, you see jail time... Kung Fu wont help you in there.

[KenshiRyan]

I have had experience

please..

and you seem to have no knowledge of techniques that attack the eyes. Or you wouldn't say what you said.

Sooo what your saying is if I say a sports fighter can attack the eyes aswell, I have no actual knowledge of attacking the eyes? and you got that..how exactly?

and yes actuly I do have experience in strikes to vital areas, 5years of shorinji kempo which teaches quite a few eye strikes etc etc,

but please..
would you kindly delve into your wealth of endless knowledge and explain these other techniques that I have apparently no knowledge of, and how a sport's fighter would not be able to use them?

[Ben Grimm]

He'll have to go through his library of his Shaw Brothers films.

[-FIGJAM-]

Why dont we try and keep this discussion on topic and leave out dumb remarks like the above?