MMA Sport fighting and Kung Fu combative, the real difference...

[Tant01]

an armbar, eh?

TigerClown, tell me something. If I got you in an armbar, how would you escape?

Just vague enough to make me ask...


jujigatame?

[Ben Grimm]

TigerClown, tell me something. If I got you in an armbar, how would you escape?

[KenshiRyan]

Wrong, some will cross the legs when doing this. And it is more likely to have some do this and then lock their leg and hurt them with their weakness than to have a pro attack you and not cross the leg. i am showing the most common way that many who attack may do.

....Yeah? but you made this thread to tell people how kung fu can beat the likes of bjj?, and your way of discrediting bjj's effectivness is to use some kid who has no idea how a bjj martial artist would apply the rear naked choke.

please..... just keep trolling.

oh! and yes, I am still waiting tigertroll.

[jubaji]

I have Jubaji on my ignore list. LOL. I'll tell him to watch the movie. I don't think that I'm on his ignore list.

No one is on my ignore list Jethro, not even racist shits like you.

[JadeDragon]

TigerClaw......Mr. Arierson wants to know if you have watched the movie "Foot Fist Way" yet?

[JadeDragon]

I think I am on his ignore list.

It breaks my heart!

(I really want him to see the movie, though!! A good, healthy dose of self-reflection never hurt anyone!)

I have Jubaji on my ignore list. LOL. I'll tell him to watch the movie. I don't think that I'm on his ignore list.

[JadeDragon]

Have you ever fought or trained with a real grappler?

Also, have you seen the movie "Foot fist way"?

I highly reccomend you watch it. Let me know what you think after you have seen it.

Your so silly. You are persistant aren't you?.........LOL.

Lol, hes blaming it on his son now, isnt he the teacher? shouldnt you be directing him better?, I guess not, tigertroll is never wrong!



still waiting troll.

Wrong, some will cross the legs when doing this. And it is more likely to have some do this and then lock their leg and hurt them with their weakness than to have a pro attack you and not cross the leg. i am showing the most common way that many who attack may do.

[Ben Grimm]

Dude, he's the king of LARP.

[FoolsTP]

I actually heard this story about a guy who trained to throw punches over his head and when someone got him in a rear naked choke cause of the training he was punching so hard from that position that he just knocked the dude silly. lol. maybe if you grabbed the dudes nuts and elbowed him? looks like you are pretty f'd if you get put in an rnc

[KenshiRyan]

Mr. Arieson, have you ever seen the movie called Deep Throat or Debbie Does Dallas. Both movies are based on true accounts of your moms early years.

clever christian attitude you got there,

ah if only we were all christian's!

[KenshiRyan]

I thought that he did post a picture of him holding a paper saying he was tigerclaw. He did this on Bullshido.com. I saw it. Didn't you all go and look at it?

You want me to go looking for creditability? no thanks he can do that himself.

[Tant01]

Corners and levers

I'm willing to overlook the obvious...

Correcting a fundamental position is easy enough.

Now lets discuss compliance?

IF the lock is defined and there is some INTENT to strangle it's not so EASY to strip it off as you suggest.

The arm "TRIANGLE" is reinforced by both hands and with the proper foot position he can apply rearward leverage on your spine with a simple thrust of his hips.

In standing position I often use my knee as a fulcrum while applying the naked strangle...

ok, so my son was unaware of his feet position. That can be fixed easily.

[jubaji]

No he is not my dad.

And the search continues...

[JadeDragon]

So, Tigerclaw is not your Dad? I was pretty sure he was. So, does that mean you accept the things Tigerclaw says as truth and that you think he is a good representative of Kung Fu?

No he is not my dad. Some things I agree with him on and some things I don't. For example, his escape from the rear naked choke where he pushes the elbow upward to relieve the pressued of the arm pressing down behind the neck I do not agree with. This would take to much strength to do. By the time you did this you would probably be choked out by then. It only takes a few seconds to choke someone out. My defense for this is don't get in the choke in the first place. Some of the escapes or counters that he states I do agree with though. Such as attacking the eyes, throat and other vulnerable areas but only in certain scenerios/situations. Where I differ from TigerClaw is that I have studied some BJJ and wrestled so I will draw apon that if need be. As for TigerClaw being my dad and/or teacher I have stated many times that my teacher is Master John Dufresne and GreatGrandmaster John Wing Lok Ng. I have no problems with stating who my teachers are (unlike TigerClaw) and giving there phone numbers (through PM of course). Fair enough?