MMA Sport fighting and Kung Fu combative, the real difference...

[JadeDragon]

As I said, watch the youtube clip "Foot fist way compilation".

By quoting the story line, you are missing the point.

The key elements is that the main character is a larper, just like you and your dad, Tigerclaw.

Classic line: "TKD is the most effective fighting style in the world" to which a potential student asks, "I thought BJJ was pretty good for grappling?" and the "teacher" answers: "BJJ sucks".

Basically, the movie is about fools like you larpers, who lack any real self-awareness, think you have all the answers, and think fighting is exactly like it is in the movies.

In this case, substitute TKD for Kung Fu (Or at least the variety that you think you train in) and there you have it!

First off TigerClaw IS NOT my dad. Secondly YOU missed MY point. And that point is that your mom gets around just like the women in the two movies I mentioned. And thirdly I'd like to address the statement in bold faced type above. The veriety of kung fu that I train in is real. My teacher is well respected and well known in the martial arts community. He knows and communicates with some of the best masters in the country and in other countries for that matter. He was envolved with the USAWKF (United States of America kung fu & wu shu federation) first started back in the mid 90's (1996 I think). http://www.usawkf.org/home.htm He was the head person of region three 3 in the U.S.. I am not a LARPER. I've been studying under my teacher for close to 20 years. I may not always get my words out the way I'm trying to but I do know what I'm talking about. And as long as what I study and train in works for me then thats all that matters. I have nothing to prove to you or any of the others that want to question ME. And there YOU have it!!!!

[JadeDragon]

So, Tigerclaw is not your Dad? I was pretty sure he was. So, does that mean you accept the things Tigerclaw says as truth and that you think he is a good representative of Kung Fu?

No he is not my dad. Some things I agree with him on and some things I don't. For example, his escape from the rear naked choke where he pushes the elbow upward to relieve the pressued of the arm pressing down behind the neck I do not agree with. This would take to much strength to do. By the time you did this you would probably be choked out by then. It only takes a few seconds to choke someone out. My defense for this is don't get in the choke in the first place. Some of the escapes or counters that he states I do agree with though. Such as attacking the eyes, throat and other vulnerable areas but only in certain scenerios/situations. Where I differ from TigerClaw is that I have studied some BJJ and wrestled so I will draw apon that if need be. As for TigerClaw being my dad and/or teacher I have stated many times that my teacher is Master John Dufresne and GreatGrandmaster John Wing Lok Ng. I have no problems with stating who my teachers are (unlike TigerClaw) and giving there phone numbers (through PM of course). Fair enough?

[jubaji]

No he is not my dad.

And the search continues...

[Tant01]

Corners and levers

I'm willing to overlook the obvious...

Correcting a fundamental position is easy enough.

Now lets discuss compliance?

IF the lock is defined and there is some INTENT to strangle it's not so EASY to strip it off as you suggest.

The arm "TRIANGLE" is reinforced by both hands and with the proper foot position he can apply rearward leverage on your spine with a simple thrust of his hips.

In standing position I often use my knee as a fulcrum while applying the naked strangle...

ok, so my son was unaware of his feet position. That can be fixed easily.

[KenshiRyan]

I thought that he did post a picture of him holding a paper saying he was tigerclaw. He did this on Bullshido.com. I saw it. Didn't you all go and look at it?

You want me to go looking for creditability? no thanks he can do that himself.

[KenshiRyan]

Mr. Arieson, have you ever seen the movie called Deep Throat or Debbie Does Dallas. Both movies are based on true accounts of your moms early years.

clever christian attitude you got there,

ah if only we were all christian's!

[FoolsTP]

I actually heard this story about a guy who trained to throw punches over his head and when someone got him in a rear naked choke cause of the training he was punching so hard from that position that he just knocked the dude silly. lol. maybe if you grabbed the dudes nuts and elbowed him? looks like you are pretty f'd if you get put in an rnc

[Ben Grimm]

Dude, he's the king of LARP.

[TigerClaw]

Lol, hes blaming it on his son now, isnt he the teacher? shouldnt you be directing him better?, I guess not, tigertroll is never wrong!



still waiting troll.

Wrong, some will cross the legs when doing this. And it is more likely to have some do this and then lock their leg and hurt them with their weakness than to have a pro attack you and not cross the leg. i am showing the most common way that many who attack may do.

[JadeDragon]

Have you ever fought or trained with a real grappler?

Also, have you seen the movie "Foot fist way"?

I highly reccomend you watch it. Let me know what you think after you have seen it.

Your so silly. You are persistant aren't you?.........LOL.

[JadeDragon]

I think I am on his ignore list.

It breaks my heart!

(I really want him to see the movie, though!! A good, healthy dose of self-reflection never hurt anyone!)

I have Jubaji on my ignore list. LOL. I'll tell him to watch the movie. I don't think that I'm on his ignore list.

[JadeDragon]

TigerClaw......Mr. Arierson wants to know if you have watched the movie "Foot Fist Way" yet?

[jubaji]

I have Jubaji on my ignore list. LOL. I'll tell him to watch the movie. I don't think that I'm on his ignore list.

No one is on my ignore list Jethro, not even racist shits like you.

[KenshiRyan]

Wrong, some will cross the legs when doing this. And it is more likely to have some do this and then lock their leg and hurt them with their weakness than to have a pro attack you and not cross the leg. i am showing the most common way that many who attack may do.

....Yeah? but you made this thread to tell people how kung fu can beat the likes of bjj?, and your way of discrediting bjj's effectivness is to use some kid who has no idea how a bjj martial artist would apply the rear naked choke.

please..... just keep trolling.

oh! and yes, I am still waiting tigertroll.

[Ben Grimm]

TigerClown, tell me something. If I got you in an armbar, how would you escape?