Why I don't practice BJJ

[jmd161]

or the japanese techniques look like chinese techniques, which is the point of the article.

I really doubt that those techniques are Chinese techniques to be honest. Chinese arts just didn't address the ground like that. The Chinese ground game mostly consisted of sweeps, throws, trips etc.. Any technique done from the ground was done to bring your opponent crashing down, with you hustling back to your feet, not staying down on the ground with them.

I'm the biggest fan of Chinese martial arts there is, but even I have to call BS when stuff is Misrepresented.


jeff

[benneil]

There has never been a question that Chinese grappling arts existed. The question was did any of them address the ground to the level of JJ, BJJ or Judo? That picture really doesn't prove much I hate to say. Although it shows two Chinese men doing some grappling, it doesn't prove what they're doing is actually Chinese grappling. You had people in China that where learning Japanese arts like karate and JJ back then also. The pics look a lot like Japanese techniques, to me...

jeff

or the japanese techniques look like chinese techniques, which is the point of the article.

[jmd161]

evidence of chinese grappling

Chinese Qin Na or Brazilian Jiu Jitsu | Art of War? Fighting Championship ::: MMA China

There has never been a question that Chinese grappling arts existed. The question was did any of them address the ground to the level of JJ, BJJ or Judo? That picture really doesn't prove much I hate to say. Although it shows two Chinese men doing some grappling, it doesn't prove what they're doing is actually Chinese grappling. You had people in China that where learning Japanese arts like karate and JJ back then also. The pics look a lot like Japanese techniques, to me...

jeff

[benneil]

evidence of chinese grappling

Chinese Qin Na or Brazilian Jiu Jitsu | Art of War? Fighting Championship ::: MMA China

[Tom Yum]

Back on Track

Ignoring Tiger Claw's rhetoric, but addressing the issue brought up - BJJ has the monopoly on empty-handed ground fighting and solid takedowns. The only arts that are comparable in that range are judo, freestyle/greco, sambo, shuaijiao and variations thereof that spend their time grappling.

No Suprise.

Combat-oriented gong fu is hard to find, but exists - but there is alot of Mc-dojoism. You just have to get connected to the right instructor, but their community is tightly-knit and tight-lipped, which is why you don't see the most effective gong-fu fighters/instructors competing - they're instructing security professionals.

Is it too deadly for the ring? Not at the sport-level. Look up some old-school san da videos, its on par with full-contact karate, with takedowns. Modern san da is muaythai with takedowns.

Jiu-jitsu is too deadly for the ring too. Keep in mind Judo was created so that grapplers could do so and return to the mat for more practice without injuries - I'll leave this for Tanto to elaborate.

Martial artists might downplay other styles, its just a force of habit once you dedicate yourself to one style but the more you get around, you see that other styles have a lot to offer.

PS - sorry I haven't been posting. Been training alot.

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[jubaji]

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Since you won't do it, you shouldn't mind if I post a picture of you in your dojo with your students, right?

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If you scroll down, you will see several nice pictures of yourself, with your class. Just so everyone knows, you are the one wearing the Kilt. I think it is a nice Kilt. I think you should make a few hundred posts about it, and perhaps seek the advice of everyone here on where you can purchase even more Kilts. We LOVE talking about fashion on this forum!
Beyond that, we LOVE talking about combatives too! How they are soooooo much better then sports martial arts! See, the picture (of you in the kilt) shows how effective your combative training is. Any mocking fool can plainly see all the people in your pictures that are in such good, physical shape from your training.
Anyway, I thought about it, went and stood in a corner for a long time, and now I want to take every vile, mocking word I ever said to you back! You really ARE a sifu and master! The pictures don't lie! You have never done any roll playing in your life!
That "lightsaber" Ben Grimm mentioned that you built, well, I can see now you meant your Shinai.
So it's all good. Please accept my apologies for mocking you. I can see that we were all wrong about you. You really are a master! One of the best! And I LOVE the kilt! It really defines you. I am sure it scares the pants off all the mockers who try to attack you in your dojo. That and the ponytail and backward's facing cap. All designed to strike fear in your enemies. Well, it worked on me! I see you in a whole, new light!

JUST keep lying and see where that gets you.

Hey why not show a picture of yourself in here?

[Ben Grimm]

So TigerClown are you a Jedi Master yet? Or did you finally start taking your medication?

[chillaplata]

I remember when he said he made a light saber. That was funny. He got a lot of flack for that one. Everyone asked him if he could shoot chi balls as well.....LOL.

But does he have the REAL lightsaber lineage, like this guy?

YouTube - The Star Wars Kid.

[JadeDragon]

Quote:
Originally Posted by TigerClaw
I am 46 years old, and that’s the truth.
I live with my mom, and my pet hamster.
But I am one hell of a kung fu dancer!

46 and still living with your mother. I bet you get upset when she tells you not to play with your lightsaber in the house.

He actually claimed to make one on DL.

I remember when he said he made a light saber. That was funny. He got a lot of flack for that one. Everyone asked him if he could shoot chi balls as well.....LOL.

[jubaji]

He's still trying to train the mantis to use the camera.

[Ben Grimm]

And his little LARPer ego is still hurting from it as well.

[jubaji]

I did the same in the DL.

Made an ass of yourself and got run off in humiliation? Yes, you did.