Sriking take down

[kingoftheforest]

We're back to it being situational. For some people going under the oncoming attack and taking down would be easier, for some slipping and counter striking would be easier. Even in that scenario there's a lot of assumptions, the fact that your dealing with someone who's already coming in swinging.

but how much time do you really have to decide what to do in any situation.

You have to react on instinct and that comes with training.

[Junka]

That's true KOTF....we may have our wires crossed here, I wasn't saying anything much different....I was actually saying that my own example was also making assumptions. For example, if the other guy is pushing you and looking like he's going to fight then hitting first would be a probable response, if he's come in swinging then you'd be looking at working another angle....(either shooting in or striking, whatever your preference)..hell I'm too tired to make sense right now.

When are you going to leave this thread and start posting on the threads I opened in the RBMA forum?

[kingoftheforest]

When are you going to leave this thread and start posting on the threads I opened in the RBMA forum?

LOL As soon as somebody clears out the underneath of the bridge.

[jubaji]

Don't let me keep ya. Come back when you have enough grappling experience to understand half of what has been said here.

[Junka]

Of course. Circumstances determine the best course of action in any situation, regardless of what agenda someone insists upon.

Yes, it's partly about what the opponent will 'let' you do, at least the way I see it. Being fairly small, I can't realistically expect to determine the fight too much, since I can't simply manhandle. That said, your agenda does come into it surely?
I mean a grappler will probably look to shoot in and a striker will want to strike. I'm not saying I wouldn't ever strike but my own agenda when faced with an agressive striker would be the shoot in and take down due in part to my strikes not being all that good and my take downs being at least passable.

[Junka]

Oh would both of you please give it a rest

[Tant01]

Instinct...

but how much time do you really have to decide what to do in any situation.

You have to react on instinct and that comes with training.

I hesitate to call any particular technique INSTINCT? There is a great deal to be said for (what I call) sensitivity. There are certainly things we FAVOR doing over other THINGS we could do... Training is important but experience... Well... every situation has a unique course of resolution.

Taking advantage of whatever position, momentum or technique that is presented and adapting our response to the level of force required.

I've always found DOING a thing much easier than talking about it...

Just an example... I was asked (recently) how I could be so fast?

I'm not really fast... The perception of time changes a great deal when you sense what's on the way. Being prepared to adapt is the key.

[jubaji]

I mean a grappler will probably look to shoot in and a striker will want to strike.

A grappler is more likely to grapple and a striker to strike, but having a particular area of strength doesn't necessarily make you stupid. The human being with a bit of sense in his head will do whatever he can that he thinks is the best course of action in a given situation.

[kingoftheforest]

I hesitate to call any particular technique INSTINCT? There is a great deal to be said for (what I call) sensitivity. There are certainly things we FAVOR doing over other THINGS we could do... Training is important but experience... Well... every situation has a unique course of resolution.

Taking advantage of whatever position, momentum or technique that is presented and adapting our response to the level of force required.

I've always found DOING a thing much easier than talking about it...

Just an example... I was asked (recently) how I could be so fast?

I'm not really fast... The perception of time changes a great deal when you sense what's on the way. Being prepared to adapt is the key.

Would you agree then that you fight like you train? Which would then influence how you are more apt to react a certain way when presented with a split second decision.

[Tant01]

Piss off...

LOL As soon as somebody clears out the underneath of the bridge.

Last time I read the story BIG billy goat didn't give a shit what was under the bridge...

But then I've been known to confuse my stories...

Where's the "WHAAAaaaaaaaahhhh" patrol ?

[kingoftheforest]

Last time I read the story BIG billy goat didn't give a shit what was under the bridge...

But then I've been known to confuse my stories...

Where's the "WHAAAaaaaaaaahhhh" patrol ?

Let's just say BIG billy goat found an alternate route that doesn't get shit all over his hooves everywhere he steps.

If people don't like it they can off

Nuff said.

[Tant01]

YES i do...

Would you agree then that you fight like you train? Which would then influence how you are more apt to react a certain way when presented with a split second decision.

Indeed. A football player will try to hurt you one way and a hocky player another way.

In some cases (probably too many) training tends to ISOLATE someone to a particular response. A TKD guy will try to kick you and a BJJ guy will try to take you down...

No offense intended with my last post at you KOTF. Keep it real...

~R.

[Junka]

A grappler is more likely to grapple and a striker to strike, but having a particular area of strength doesn't necessarily make you stupid. The human being with a bit of sense in his head will do whatever he can that he thinks is the best course of action in a given situation.

Hmmmm maybe. I think under stress, sense doesn't come into it much since there isn't really time for reasoned and logical thought.

Why is everyone so defensive today, did I say anyone was stupid? In the scenario I gave [a guy coming in swinging aggressively] either strategy could work as long as you were good at it.

[Tant01]

Dance around it...

Let's just say BIG billy goat found an alternate route that doesn't get shit all over his hooves everywhere he steps.

If people don't like it they can off

Nuff said.

.............................

So much for footwork? LOL

[kingoftheforest]

I guess my SD mentality is that bull charging face first into my opponents attack zone, while having my arms occupied with attempting to grab or entangle my opponents legs, leaving my back, head and face unprotected never appealed to me.

Some people seem to take that personally.


I was always taught to protect your face neck and head and not give the opponent a shot at your back.

Charging in face first just goes against all the principles of fighting I have been taught through out my life.