Technique discussions, pictures and video etc.

[Uncle Skippy]

I am not saying you are insane. But you do have some issues no doubt.

Bruce,

I don't think you are insane.

I think you are batshit crazy.

[JadeDragon]

No, ......

Wow.....thats a lot to admit publically.

[TigerClaw]

Well, one, that makes no sense what so ever. Go to a site willing to share and won't be convoluted with not like minded people. Two, your technique really isn't that good. Not that it won't work just it wasn't that good. You attacked those who didn't agree with you. Why would I want my technique attacked?

Thus I hold off on sharing.

Hey, my technique was that good, and don't be afraid of sharing your techniques. Guaranteed there will always be mockers who will attack anything any time in a mean spirited attitude. But we just go on and hope they go away.

The reason I said my technique was that good, is because I had done it against resistance attacks and it works. Also other have sometime NO TECHNIQUES at all to escape the RNC. They just say, "oh well, once he just locks in your done, no hope"

I don't agree. It is better to have many options than none. By the way there are other defenses I have not shown that are equally as good to escape the RNC.

[TigerClaw]

Jade, seriously, this guy is over-the-top crazy. More then anyone else on this forum, including me. Surely you don't think he is sane, right?

I am most likely one of the most sane people you have met in these forums. I don't say that to be proud or boast. Juts a strong possibility. To me sanity begins with a right perspective on life and purpose etc.

[TigerClaw]

Okay, I agree with you but it is kinda funny to read your all's posts.

Jade Dragon, You should know that I am very sane and reasonable.

[TigerClaw]

You are misleading the argument.

Your take-down defense, as YOU presented it and as YOU described it in the post above, is legal.

Now, why don't we see it done as YOU have written it?

Which technique are you talking about? The RNC or shoot escape. In both I s=attack the eyes and the neck.

[TigerClaw]

Bruce,

I don't think you are insane.

I think you are batshit crazy.

Define,

"batshit crazy"

No lets see who is insane....

[Uncle Skippy]

Guaranteed there will always be mockers who will attack anything any time in a mean spirited attitude. But we just go on and hope they go away.

The reason I said my technique was that good, is because I had done it against resistance attacks and it works. Also other have sometime NO TECHNIQUES at all to escape the RNC. They just say, "oh well, once he just locks in your done, no hope"

I mock because I know there are better ways out, higher percentage ways out of both scenarios (RNC and half-assed-single-leg-takedown).

You don't train with people who know how to do both techniques properly.

You haven't trained in other schools for a minimal amount of time with people who know how to do both techniques properly.

Both of these statements are backed by all your posts on Bullshido and on here.

If I were you, I'd just try to figure out some other escapes that would more likely work against a minimally trained opponent.

Maybe try dropping in a BJJ or Judo school for a week to see.

Or are you afraid you're going to catch "sportist fever"?

[TigerClaw]

Hi Bruce. You failed to answer this when I asked before. Can you show me in Vale Tudo rules where eye gouges and neck cranks are illegal?

Your friend, BoonDog

I really don't want to talk to you, your behavoiur on the other forum was wrong towards me and you seem like a mocker as well, to me. Or a person looking for fault continuously.

But here is the site about Vale Tudo rules I found,

http://www.kamppailuopisto.com/fightfestival/valetudorules.pdf

"9. Forbidden techniques
The following actions are not allowed:
1. Biting
2. Spitting
3. Scratching
4. Hair pulling
5. Finger locks
6. Head butts
7. Attacking the groin
8. Poking fingers into eyes
9. Fish hooking
10. Pushing windpipe with thumb or finger(s) or squeezing the windpipe or adam's apple
11. Elbows to head or face in B-class contests.
12. Striking downward using the point of the elbow.
13. Strokes to the throat, back of the head, neck and spinal cord
14. Grabbing the ropes and refuse to release the ropes and/or hanging the limbs of the body
(hand(s), arm(s), leg(s) or feet) over the rope intentionally. A fighter who places his
upper arm over the rope during the match shall be given a warning immediately.
15. Escaping to the outside of the ring
16. Throwing the opponent outside the ring
17. Stalling or failure to initiate any offensive or defensive attack. Making no attempt to
finish or damage the opponent.
18. If one is standing and the other is not in upright position, the fighter who stands is not
allowed to kick or knee to the head.
19. While in upright position and having an opponent in a neck lock it is not allowed to
throw him, or even try to throw him.
A fighter who commits these illegal actions shall be given a warning, in the form of a yellow
card, by the referee and such illegal action shall be a negative factor for decision. Third warning
during the fight shall disqualify the fighter. A severe illegal action can lead to immediate
disqualification, e.g., if the victim is not able to continue the fight after the first forbidden
action, the transgressor will be disqualified."

So basically in that sport fighting, they are saying to Kung Fu fighters, "don't do many of your techniques here".

[TigerClaw]

If I were you, I'd just try to figure out some other escapes that would more likely work against a minimally trained opponent.

?

I have other escapes for this RNC and for the shoot etc.

[bunnyfufuman]

Hey, my technique was that good, and don't be afraid of sharing your techniques. Guaranteed there will always be mockers who will attack anything any time in a mean spirited attitude. But we just go on and hope they go away.

The reason I said my technique was that good, is because I had done it against resistance attacks and it works. Also other have sometime NO TECHNIQUES at all to escape the RNC. They just say, "oh well, once he just locks in your done, no hope"

I don't agree. It is better to have many options than none. By the way there are other defenses I have not shown that are equally as good to escape the RNC.

No that technique was not that good, it's a race against time and it'll get locked before you're able to twist. Even if you could twist there's no leverage for the full escape. I know we played with it for 3 days straight.

[BoonDog]

I really don't want to talk to you, your behavoiur on the other forum was wrong towards me and you seem like a mocker as well, to me. Or a person looking for fault continuously.

Why are you allowed to point out errors in others, but I cannot point out your errors? How do I seem like a mocker? Is it just because I question you and am a skeptic that you know much of what you are talking about?

But here is the site about Vale Tudo rules I found,

http://www.kamppailuopisto.com/fightfestival/valetudorules.pdf

Thank you for the quick reply. I am glad you finally found them. Do you know what county that site was from by any chance or did you just find the first hit on Google that agreed with your position?

[TigerClaw]

Why are you allowed to point out errors in others, but I cannot point out your errors? How do I seem like a mocker? Is it just because I question you and am a skeptic that you know much of what you are talking about?

You can point out my errors if I have them. But the line of attack you pursued showed few if any errors.


It might be best to discuss techniques with no malice and doubtful disputations. All the massive heap of lies and false assumptions that snowballed into a huge mountain of nothingness on Bullshido, was intersting to watch as others dug pits for themselves and went on and on in their lies. But it was also irritating.

[JadeDragon]

Here are the Vale Tudo rules that I found. It took me a while just to find these. It was harder than I thought it would be.

Forbidden techniques
The following actions are not allowed:
1. Biting
2. Spitting
3. Scratching
4. Hair pulling
5. Finger locks
6. Head butts
7. Attacking the groin
8. Poking fingers into eyes
9. Fish hooking
10. Pushing windpipe with thumb or finger(s) or squeezing the windpipe or adam's apple
11. Elbows to head or face in B-class contests.
12. Striking downward using the point of the elbow.
13. Strokes to the throat, back of the head, neck and spinal cord
14. Grabbing the ropes and refuse to release the ropes and/or hanging the limbs of the body
(hand(s), arm(s), leg(s) or feet) over the rope intentionally. A fighter who places his
upper arm over the rope during the match shall be given a warning immediately.
15. Escaping to the outside of the ring
16. Throwing the opponent outside the ring
17. Stalling or failure to initiate any offensive or defensive attack. Making no attempt to
finish or damage the opponent.
18. If one is standing and the other is not in upright position, the fighter who stands is not
allowed to kick or knee to the head.
19. While in upright position and having an opponent in a neck lock it is not allowed to
throw him, or even try to throw him.

A fighter who commits these illegal actions shall be given a warning, in the form of a yellow
card, by the referee and such illegal action shall be a negative factor for decision. Third warning
during the fight shall disqualify the fighter. A severe illegal action can lead to immediate
disqualification, e.g., if the victim is not able to continue the fight after the first forbidden
action, the transgressor will be disqualified. The fighter shall be fined 10% of the fighting fee
per warning payable to promoter.

http://www.kamppailuopisto.com/fightfestival/valetudorules.pdf

[BoonDog]

You can point out my errors if I have them. But the line of attack you pursued showed few if any errors.


It might be best to discuss techniques with no malice and doubtful disputations. All the massive heap of lies and false assumptions that snowballed into a huge mountain of nothingness on Bullshido, was intersting to watch as others dug pits for themselves and went on and on in their lies. But it was also irritating.

I will not bring up anything from the other forum we were on. I will only see what happens here and use accurate quotes from this thread. I do not think it is helpful to change people's quotes in this discussion and we should see what you have to offer.

Does this sound fair to you?